Red spots on U.S. Gold

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Pepperoni, May 4, 2009.

  1. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni Senior Member

    Has anyone ever heard of or seen small red dots on U.S. proof gold. .999 gold spouse coins to be exact ?

    Thanks
    Pepperoni
     
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  3. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I have seen red and green spots on new proof buffalo's... I have absolutely no idea what they are... and they will not dip off.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hmmmm - interesting. Somebody post a pic.
     
  5. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    never at least i have not :)
     
  6. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni Senior Member

    Thought

    How about die polishing compound, or do they even use such an abrasive.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I suspect it probably has something to do with planchet washing, that seems to be the usual culprit.
     
  8. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni Senior Member

    Spots

    Thanks, does this have any effect on price ?
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Back in 2006 when the proof buffalos first came out there were many complaints about red "stuff" on the coins. It turned out to be the lubricating oil they use on the planchets to keep them from sticking in the feeding machinery. An acetone rinse should remove it.
     
  10. alhas

    alhas Senior Member

  11. donnyb

    donnyb Member

    If the spot won't dip off, have you tried a wire brush?
     
  12. troublesbrewin

    troublesbrewin remember rotary phones?

    I have a First Spouse coin that has a miniscule red mark on the obverse, I just recently noticed it. I have had this coin for about a year now,purchased directly from the Mint and it's never been out of the original plastic case, it's one of the Jefferson Liberty coins.

    What I find odd is that so far most of these issues have revolved around the 1/2 ounce .9999% pure gold coins. I may contact the mint and see if I can have them audit the supplier of the planchets during this time period. I wouldn't expect this to happen with a virtually pure gold coin.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    That would be my first guess to. My second guess would be copper spots (from the alloy/impurities in the gold)...>Mike
     
  14. CentDime

    CentDime Coin Hoarder

    It is also possible these are early toning spots that will grow over time. I once purchased a 1995 commemorative gold with very ugly areas that looked to be glue. After acetone didn't remove them I left the coin alone and it slowly improved as toning overtook the entire coin. So what was once an ugly coin turned into a gem. I am not sure that will happen with the spouse spots though, only time will tell.

    I have also had light toning on a proof buffalo gold one ounce coin so even the purest coin can show toning.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Kinda hard to figure that when the spots are not removed with a coin dip. And oil, regardless of type, would not affect .999 gold. 'Course I can't think of anything else that would either.

    Enough impurities in .999 gold to cause copper spots ? Somehow I doubt that.

    I'm still inclined to think it has something to do with the planchet washing process, kind of like the milk spots on the ASE's.
     
  16. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    :)
     
  17. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni Senior Member

    Brush ?

    We only have one wire brush, and it is being used in the bathroom.
     
  18. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    update red and green spots exist
     
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