Going through some older world coins I ran across this Finland 1930, Markka, KM# 30 stuck over a KM# 27. I can't see the date on the original coin, but I think recycled coins are interesting and seem fairly rare. Anyone else got a nice one to show and tell?
My apologies, forgive my ignorance, but I do not know what a recycled coin is, so I do not know if I have one to show. Please explain what a "Recycled" coin is. By the way, I really like that image on your avatar, the era of knights was so fascinating!
I don't think that is a recycled coin. I never heard of a recycled coin myself. It could be a Double Struck Flip Over Coin Error of the same coin struck at that moment. Here is what I'm talking about - I want to share this webpage with you - http://www.error-ref.com/mulitple-strikes-flip-over/
I think the OP is using "recycled coin" to mean a coin that was struck over another coin. These are common in early US and colonial coinage. I'm not familiar with Finnish coinage. How do you know that this was struck over another type, and not a flip-over double strike, of the same type?
That's what I was thinking. But this is not a early US or colonial...it's a 1930 MARKKA... so it's most likely a Flip Over Double Struck Coin
The OP coin was struck over an earlier version of the Finnish 1 Markka, and is not a 'flip over double struck coin', whatever that is. Placement of 'Markka' makes this obvious.
Its exactly what it sounds like. A coin is struck, and rather than being ejected from the coining chamber, it flips over and is struck a second time, from the same dies. This is different than a regular double struck coin, which doesn't flip over. Usually, the second strike is off center, but not always.
I don't see how that is possible if the older Markka is bigger (24 mm) than the newer Markka (21 mm).. how would a bigger older coin fit into a smaller newer Markka chamber to be struck again?
Deep end guys. We need clarification on what @frech001 means by "recycled." Some error collectors believe their coins to be medieval in origin, only to be recycled into early to modern U.S. coins. If you doubt this send a PM and I'll point you in the right direction.
Perhaps the older coins were cut down to accommodate the new size? Just conjecture, I'm really not sure. Numista states: "Coins dated 1928S, 1929S and 1930S are known to be restruck on 1921-1924, KM#27 coins; 1928S: 2 or 3 known."
Thanks Harris498. KM# 27 was 24 mm in diameter, so this coin was cut down before being stamped for a KM# 30. In a true sense, this coin was recycled using a previously minted coin. I've seen a couple of world coins that were stamped using both previously minted coins from the same country and from neighboring countries.
Oh, okay. Now i know what recycled coins are. Thank you, each of you who clarified that for me. And no, I do not own any. Sorry, but it is still an interesting thread.
Here is another recycled coin. This one from Sweden, an 1805 Skilling, KM# 566 (top picture) was struck over an earlier 2 Ore, probably like the 1751 KM# 461 (lower picture) that I've rotated for comparison. These two coins were the same size and weight.
