Real or fake?

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  1. R_rabbit

    R_rabbit Well-Known Member

    561B0DEC-DF00-40DF-95A7-A7A765205BD5.jpeg B56998D3-75DF-439E-A089-54D6D19EBF85.jpeg Hello my friends ☺️

    I’m checking out this coin 1884-O Morgan and have been finding it difficult to figure if it’s real or fake?

    The “O” is questionable..

    Greatly appreciate your input
    what do you all think..

    seller’s pictures.
     
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  3. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it's real or fake from those photos, but...

    Morgans are so readily available, why buy one that you have doubts about?
     
  4. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    ....and to my untrained eye, it looks like a fake. If not fake, harshly cleaned.
     
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  5. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Looks fake to me and it also appears to be in a PVC flip and cleaned,overall I would avoid this one anyway real or not.
     
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  6. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    Harshly cleaned, and dare I say fake.
    Does it stick to a magnet?
    and what's the weight?
     
  7. R_rabbit

    R_rabbit Well-Known Member

    I had a feeling it was fake.. my gut is usually always right.

    recently I have noticed a lot of fake coins being made making more difficult for people who are wanting to get into collecting.
     
  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    So are the rest of the letters, I think.
     
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  9. R_rabbit

    R_rabbit Well-Known Member

    the seller doesn’t say if it’s sticking to a magnet and he only gives a rough weight of 27..shady
     
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  10. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Save yourself headaches and worries - buy slabbed.
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I'd pass on it! Even if it is not a fake, it appears to have been harshly cleaned. Maybe that is why the seller left it in the plastic and took the photos at an angle in order to hide such things.
     
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  12. R_rabbit

    R_rabbit Well-Known Member

    websites should not cater to these people who are selling these coins. It has become to easy to create fake coins.

    I have noticed that there has also been fake coins in slabs as well so please be careful.
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Unfortunately, sites like SleazeBay and Etsy are not staffed by experts (in any field!) At best, they are only "order processers". Do you really think that they would know a fake coin from a real one?
     
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  14. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I only but graded Morgan's because there are so many fakes .
     
  15. R_rabbit

    R_rabbit Well-Known Member

    it’s more than just Morgan’s now also peace dollars , other nationalities coins etc.

    unless it’s a legitimate company or someone who has a prestigious representation then be wary.

    I still like to crack open the slab and weigh and test..just in case. I can always resend to a grading company.
     
  16. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    There are several websites advertising that they are selling genuine Morgans at $9.99 each. I am quite confident that desperate people are buying the ten dollar fakes and re-advertising them on Ebay and such. What a terrible black eye on our hobby.

    But, there is one thing with this one that gives me pause. The typical fake Morgan has a spray on sort of black toning around the devices. That has been the canned finish that the Beijing mint has used to deceive novice collectors.... This one appears to have a blue hued toning. If this one is a fake, the blue hued toning is a new and disturbing step up for the counterfeiters.
     
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  17. R_rabbit

    R_rabbit Well-Known Member

    I have a few fakes that I purchased to study. You would be surprised what they can do now.

    They even pass the magnet test.
    Weight is really close...but still there are a few signs that give it away.

    The counterfeits are purposely scratched and polished even to fade away some images.

    If you noticed any darker pot holes type marks is also a sign.

    Carefully go over the design of the real and fake to make sure it’s real or not.
     
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