Real or fake ?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Evildriven.da, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    Hello all !!! I recently acquired this Morgan dollar ((pictures added hopefully)) . I've been searching site after site to determine if Fake or not, But so far the weight 26.7 grams, also isn't attracted to magnets. Can anyone HELP with this maybe? Thanks in advance
     

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  3. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    This one looks kinda weird to me. i dont have anything to compare it to but the date... weird looking
     
  4. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

  5. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    Yes Tlberg deja vu
     
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  6. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    interesting screen name you have there...
     
  7. Tom S Lipscomb

    Tom S Lipscomb New Member

  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It looks like a fake to me.
     
  9. Tom S Lipscomb

    Tom S Lipscomb New Member

    I'm new to coin collecting. Can you tell me why you believe it to be fake, please?
     
  10. MommaHenn

    MommaHenn Active Member

    Teaching & learning opportunity please...what jumps out at you and screams “I’m a fake”?
     
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  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Mushiness, it's mushier than a mushroom! :D
     
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  12. MommaHenn

    MommaHenn Active Member

    Plz bear with me...are you saying mushy as in it has seen better days or mushy as in a poor quality counterfeit job? Either or other kind of reason?
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    All details are soft or mushy. The coloring and the wear. Look at the reverse. Noticevthecwear on the Eagles breast and legs. Compare that to the wear on the claws, neck feathers and wings. Morgans don't wear like that. Also the mintmark, the wreath and lettering show also no signs of wear.

    Same for the obverse, Liberty's hair is worn, even on her neck but no wear on her cheeks or the date. All the stars are mushy and they should be sharp, even if worn. The entire coin lacks detail. Even in a lower grade this is a $400 coin. It just says fake to me. I wouldn't touch it.
     
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  14. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I'm saying it's mushy as in a poor quality counterfeit! :D There's other reasons as well, like the date and coloring, lack of luster etc. The date itself makes it scream counterfeit on a higher level, meaning if you don't notice the mushiness you will surely notice the date. ;) My guess is it was likely made by the notorious counterfeiter from China, name is Sum Yung Guy! j/k :D
     
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  15. Evildriven.da

    Evildriven.da Member

    IMG_20190606_182239.jpg OK the one I thought was real is a fake. So maybe this will be the real thing. Didn't want to send off for grading and be an easy spotted fake. That cost me money I don't have. So thank you all for the time
     

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  16. Tlberg

    Tlberg Well-Known Member

    @Tom S Lipscomb - I think your Ebay coin was mixed up with the coin at the beginning of this post - most of the comments are aimed at the Morgan I think...
     
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  17. Bambam8778

    Bambam8778 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't touch it!
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    My comments are based on the 1895, not the 1889. The 1889 photo is too blurry for me to comment. My comments are based off of a photo so if you have a LCS nearby, please take your coin there.
     
  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yes it was, nice catch.
     
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  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I believe they are both fake.
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Both fake. Wherever you bought them, stop shopping there.
     
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