Real or Counterfeit?

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  1. Soiled

    Soiled Everyone has coin Avatars. I chose space.

    Just bought this on eBay. Seller has many positive reviews. 1957 1c PF 68 RD Cameo. Bought it for $37 and change. Thing that bugs me a little is the NGC sticker on the back of the holder. Thx. 1957 1c obv.jpg 1957 1c.jpg
     
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  3. rysherms

    rysherms Alpha Member

    well.....the NGC price guide says it is worth $575....so considering it was sold at about 1/15th the price....sounds fishy....that looks like the old NGC slab, and i do not own any of those style. all of the stickers on mine are full length, not half length like that one. call NGC.
     
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  4. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

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  5. rysherms

    rysherms Alpha Member

    wait. if you do a certification check it says $575. but if you click on the coin details it puts the value at about what you paid. this is weird. i am going to bow out and say i dont know enough about this to help. sorry.
     
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  6. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Looks perfectly fine to me. I own several NGC coin holders just like that one.

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  7. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Two NGC certified ones with the same grade sold in April 2013 for $258 & $1057. I looked up the coin in the cert lookup also and it looks good. I just bought an NGC certified 1957 cameo proof nickel for $15 on ebay the other week in the same holder. It books for $100+. Very hard to find cameo proofs from that year even though the mintage was very high that year.

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  8. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    There are NGC slabs where that size hologram sticker was used. Whether it was used with that label on the front I don't know, someone else will have to answer that.
    If it's legit, you stole that coin.
     
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  9. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Looks perfect to me, I own a bunch of NGC holders like that.

    I looked on ha.com and the last 10 NGC graded coins like yours (1957 1C PR68 Cameo):

    Sold For: $253.00
    Sold For: $253.00
    Sold For: $253.00
    Sold For: $258.50
    Sold For: $276.00
    Sold For: $299.00
    Sold For: $368.00
    Sold For: $373.75
    Sold For: $373.75
    Sold For: $437.00

    I would say you made out!!
     
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  10. Gimme_More_Coins

    Gimme_More_Coins Active Member

    I looked it up with the NGC app and it came up with no picture available. Sorry.
     
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  11. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    I have owned many ngc slabs with the sticker on the back like that. What does the coin book in the lower proof grade? PF67?
     
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  12. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It's fine.
     
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  13. SilverSurfer415

    SilverSurfer415 Well-Known Member

    Turns out to be one of the greatest deal EVER!!!
     
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  14. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    You're absolutely correct.

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  15. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Wow. Great purchase!
     
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  16. rysherms

    rysherms Alpha Member

    if i saw another NGC slab with the same size sticker on the back, or had NGC themselves say that is normal, i would feel more comfortable. i mean, if it is legit, and you paid $37, you got an amazing deal. but just as you came here because you had a question, i believe we are questioning the same thing, that small sticker....
     
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  17. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    I'm no questioning the small sticker...that is the way NGC stickers looked in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
     
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  18. rysherms

    rysherms Alpha Member

    oh good man. i have been looking and couldnt find those. thats cool for the OP!
     
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  19. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    If memory serves me correct, the Chinese aren't so hell-bent on trying to forge older slabs, like the one pictured in the original post. (Although I could be wrong)

    A little less than 6 years ago these were published concerning fake slabs:

    http://coins.about.com/od/coingrading/ig/Fake-PCGS-Slab-Diagnostics/
    http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=954

    (Granted, there's more articles and threads out there, these were just the two I had bookmarked for quick reference.)

    This site, though cataloging only sample slabs, could always be of service as well. I believe this is Conder101's site (someone correct me if I'm wrong), who is a poster on most of the coin forums.

    http://www.sampleslabs.com/
     
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  20. Vegas Vic

    Vegas Vic Undermedicated psychiatric patient

    If it is too good to be true...
     
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  21. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    the pictures make the coin look (to me) like it wouldn't grade 68 Cameo if it were submitted today. I would be interested to see the coin in hand, because at PF-68 Cameo, it should look a whole lot better than those pictures
     
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