Rare Nerva denarius?

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    One of seven coins I picked up today.

    Online, there are lots of examples of RIC 6, with the IMP NERVA CAES AVG P M TR P COS II P P obverse legend and of RIC 18, with the IMP NERVA CAES AVG P M TR P COS III P P obverse legend.

    But mine's RIC 30, which reads IMP NERVA CAES AVG P M TR P II COS III P P.

    I can't find another one online -- not at Wildwinds, acsearchinfo, coinproject.com, coin archives (free version), Online Coins of the Roman Empire (OCRE), Sear 5th ed., or CNG archives. Is this thing rare?

    Post coins of Nerva, Justitia, or anything you feel is relevant. And any info about my coin in particular would be most welcome. Thanks!

    Nerva IVSTITIA AVGVST denarius.jpg
    Nerva, AD 96-98
    Roman AR denarius, 16 mm, 3.39 g
    Rome, Sept-Dec AD 97
    Obv: IMP NERVA CAES AVG P M TR P II COS III P P, laureate head right
    Rev: IVSTITIA AVGVST: Justitia, draped, seated right on low backed chair, feet on stool, holding long straight scepter in right and branch extended in left
    Refs: RIC 30; Cohen 103.
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2017
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  3. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Cool score! Sep-Dec 97 according to this. Does that match what RIC says?
     
  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Yes.
     
  5. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Great coin even better rare as yours, all his silver can be pricey so one can only imagine what that one would be. I have a reasonably scarce Dupondius minted in the first few months of his reign Sept-Dec 96 AD. 20160818_082927.jpg
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Looked it up yesterday in BMCRE; it lists an aureus with this reverse type and obverse inscription, but no denarius. None on vcoins right now. This one is clearly more scarce than RIC's "Common" designation would indicate.
     
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  7. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    Great nerva! Congrats! I am still looking for the right one of this emperor.
     
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  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Update:

    I found another example online. This one (misattributed as RIC 18) from Pegasi Numismatics. I believe mine is a die match on both obverse and reverse.

    The Pegasi coin:

    Nerva IVSTITIA AVGVST denarius RIC 30 Pegasi.jpg
    My coin:

    Nerva IVSTITIA AVGVST denarius RIC 30.jpg

    The fact that the only two examples online are obverse and reverse die matches raises the question of whether the entire issue was struck from just a single pair of dies.
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2018
  9. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Great find. It sure looks like a 2 die match to me too.
     
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  10. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Nice denarius! I still need him for my coll.
     
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  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Anyone know how to search the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris for the specimen that was referenced by Cohen? I want to see if it's a die-match, too.
     
  12. Daniel_R6

    Daniel_R6 Well-Known Member

    Nice addition, well done.
     
  13. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Here is a link to all the Nerva denarii in the BNF. You may be able to narrow it down further if Cohen had an accession number for it or something, otherwise good luck!
     
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  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Is there no way of seeing reverses without clicking on each one separately?
     
  15. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Unfortunately no, not that I know of.
     
  16. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    Great detective work. I bet Curtis Clay would be able to help you over at Forum.
     
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  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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  19. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Cool! Thanks for tracking these down! I didn't use the right search terms or overlooked them somehow.

    These two are from different obverse and reverse dies from each other and from my coin, so at least three of each die.

    My coin turns out to not be so rare, but merely "scarce."
     
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