quick question about a coin in my collection

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Beginner345, Oct 30, 2018.

  1. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    I bought this a while back.
    L Julius Bursio

    18-20 mm

    about 4 grams bursio s-l1600.jpg bursios-l1600.jpg
     
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  3. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    L Julius Bursio Denarius
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Looks off to me too.
     
  6. Jay GT4

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  8. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Sometimes the artificial toning is a dead give-away.
     
  9. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    I concur with the other opinions that this is a fake. I've seen a few of these from this same die pair. Thankfully the forger made a few errors that make this stand out even from photos alone if you know what to look for. One surefire sign here is the absence of the quadriga wheel and the weird way the design is cut off before the line border starts at 7-8 o'clock on the reverse. This is an area where the forger transferred the design and the cut a new border without engraving the actual portion of the reverse design that was off flan on the host coin. These coins have in some cases made it through major dealers unfortunately. Here's one sold a couple years back by Bertolami and I've seen an example on Vcoins some time ago as well.

    Edit: actually the Bertolami example might be the exact same coin that OP posted. At any rate, still a forgery
     
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  10. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    ty redspork. I trust the dealer. I just spoke to him - he said he got it from a relative of his and he wasn't sure about it to begin with. I am getting my money back. thanks again!
     
  11. Beginner345

    Beginner345 Active Member

    I didn't take a good look at it until today.. Ill be careful in the future. ty
     
  12. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    THanks for the clarification. My eyes knew something was wrong, but reading your explanation explains to my brain what my eyes were saying, if that makes any sense.
     
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