Quick... Please... Grade on this FEC?

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  1. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

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  3. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Morgan / Gold Indian Member

    Based off the 2X2 I would say that MS-61 is accurate. If you get it or if this is already yours, I would send it in to get it slabbed.
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  4. schepys_coins

    schepys_coins Eric's Best Friend

  5. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    What is going on with the rim hit at 630 on the reverse hard to see from photo but in hand you should be able to get a good look.
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  6. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Thank you ! I missed that!
  7. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Nice coin but most likely cleaned.
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  8. jonathan layne

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  9. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Agree... color looks off.
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  10. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Thanks to all who posted. SO much stuff that I missed... part of the problem of going to a coin show and being caught in the "heat of the moment"...

    Thanks for talking me down ;-)
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  11. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    It looks nice on first sight but there may be a reason why it’s still (or again?) in a 2x2. As @C-B-D said, the color seems to be off... keep on searching ;-)
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  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    Looks tooled and agree the color is not right for a coin in ms shape.
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I wouldn’t touch that as an unc, period.
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I don’t see any luster. That makes me stay far away
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  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Don’t like it. Looks like a cleaned slider
  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It has Unc. details, but I don’t know if it is Mint State. It all depends upon the luster, which is not showing in this photo. It might just be the photo.

    I don’t see hairlines, do I don’t know that it’s been cleaned. As to the color, these copper-nickel cents can be anything from bright white to tan to golden. Black or green is bad because that is corrosion.
  17. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    I wou.d venture to say that the dealer would of come way off the price on the 2x2 just to unload it!
    That coin has major issues....not just color, I strongly suspect it has been doctored or tooled.
    Hair line aren't the only clue to a coin that has been messed with....as to exactly how who knows.... but again I bet the owner would of cut that price enough to set a hook without scaring off the buyer.
    One needs to ask just 1 question.....why hasn't the dealer had it slabed?
    Why....?....because it won't pass by a TPG!
    So he is just waiting for someone who does know what they are doing and pawning it off on them.
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  18. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here are a couple of graded pieces you use to perhaps get a better idea.

    The first one (1857) is a PCGS MS-65

    The second (1858) one is an NGC MS-64.

    Sorry, I have read the instructions, but I still don't understand how to put pictures in the body of the text. Do you need a serving site, like Photobucker? If so that is a non-starter for me. I have been there and want nothing more to do with Photobucket.

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  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Hey brother can you spare a half dime?

    And none of those look anything like the op coin.....so yes a good visual of what is correct and what looks like hell.
  20. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    You can't always judge coins by the pictures. Having worked with coin photography for over decade, you would be surprised how you can alter the look of a piece.

    I am not saying this coin is good. There is probably a reason why it's not certified. That always goes through my mind these days where I see something that is say, $500 or more. It's just that I don't know that we can see enough to condemn it.

    BTW PCGS sent the second one, the 1858, back to me in a body bag 20 years ago. NGC graded it. PCGS had not reason to do what they did, but that's the grading game. I've also had NGC refuse to grade a piece that PCGS graded. Go figure.
  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    When you upload an image, you should see a button that says Full Image.
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