Questions about these coins I won.

I punched in the wrong amount for this lot and I won the auction. After going through the Redbook, even at half the prices listed these coins appear to be worth what I paid atleast but have some questoins. What is the counterstamped coin and what is something like that worth? What type of 1805 half cent is the draped bust since I see a variety. Why is the 1883 with no cents gold? Was that dipped to resemble a five dollar gold piece? Does the seated half dime have a special date since I do see there are a couple in the Redbook. I see the half dime has full liberty that is weak in spots.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-7-Ty...Oq3pFt7vABpEjdKojhV4g/U=&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

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Regarding the half cent, it looks like a large 5 w/ stems.

 

The counterstamped coin is an 1858 Flying Eagle cent. The counter stamp doesnt look like its too valuable but Ill look through my books at the shop tomorrow .

Yes, the 1883 V nickel is a "racketeer" nickel & was possibly coated to resemble the $5 gold piece back then ,but was most likey done well after the fact of the stories about the Racketeer nickels coming out & done to be sold as a novelty.

 

It looks like the gold has worn off so you know it hasn't been done recently but there is no way to prove that it was original. Or is there? Does NGC or PCGS grade these? Are flying eagles about the size of nickel? It looks like the same size as the v nickel in the picture.

 

Ill say that the coating isnt actually gold . The wear on the coin suggests to me the amount of time would have been quite some years & the story was out & the jig was up by then.That is why I think this is a late date / coated piece.Also the coin has damage from what looks to be an old pin mounting on the reverse. This coin would not grade at any reputable service because of the damage.
The 1858 Flying Eagle cent is a different size than the nickel. The design & date is visable under the provided magnification in the listing.

 

It doesn't really matter since it's not worth much at all. As Bedford mentioned, many were done as novelties, and this is still where most of the interest in such a coin will be today. If you are lucky, you might get a few bucks tops unless someone bought it as a sucker bet.

FEs are the same thickness as a C/N IHC, but otherwise the same as any small cent.

 

Yes, I didn't notice before but the Redbook has a pic of the dates, it is large 5.

 

It also has stems.

 

Yes, I noticed that the counter-stamped coin is a flying eagle and there is no way to tell if the racketeer nickel even if it was genuine. I wasn't focusing on that and just was going to keep it due to the damage. I didn't notice the gold until after the auction ended. I was focusing more on the 3-cent nickel, shield nickels, half-dime, and half-cent.

 

This is certainly an educational lot.

 

On to the counter-stamp. I did find a list of counter-stamps http://www.exonumia.com/art/cma.htm but can't find anything else about this stamp, if you can find out about this counter-stamp D. Clark which is on the list I would appreciate it, I have no clue about what this is worth. I could list it on Ebay if I don't want it and see what someone will give me for it. I think I will go to the local coin show and have some dealers look at these.

 

The half cent is not the large 5 it is the medium 5 and it is stemless.

The 1858 half dime has three well known varieties the "regular" issue, an 1858/1858 repunched date, and an 1858 over inverted 1858 repunched date. Your coin is the regular date.

 

I was also notified by someone that the 3 cent nickel has a die clash error. I can see the "ST" on the face of her and lines that look like a roman numeral III on the face. Does anyone know if this error carries a premium?

 

While three cent nickels commonly have die clashes, I don't see any clashes on this coin. If there were clashes they would show on the fields and not the devices. Die clashes on the devices are very unusual.

 

You see the line going diagonally across the brim of the hat? One diagonal on the face? I thought I saw a TS. I will have to get the coin and draw arrows to the clash. Click a larger view and look on the cheek. There are letters on it. The most obvious error is the diagonal
"I" over the right rim of the helmet or headband, whatever hat she is wearing. I also noticed letters accross the top of the head with an obvious "S" right on the beginning of the pony tail. I posted this lot on what it is worth and someone told me there was a clash so I Googled it and read up on it. I also just noticed letters right across the neck starting in the field before.

 

Conder101 is correct regarding the stems. I mistook the ribbons for stems. If it is stemless, it probably is the medium 5.

 

No matter, they have the same value although it is good to know the type. The small 5 is the rare one and know it isn't that one by the pics in the Redbook.

 

Clashmarks would come from the reverse die. There are no letters on the reverse die to create clashmarks. I believe the diagonal lines you are seeing may be planchet striations. When the strip is rolled out the rolling process can leave lines running along the length of the strip. Normally these lines are "wiped out" by the force of the strike. But in the high relief areas if the strike is not completely full these lines can still be visible.

 

I will have to look at the coin when I get it. One of the members here mentioned about a clash. What are the letters on the obverse? There are letters on the obverse like the "S" near the band of the pony tail then more going left and letters going accross the face and neck. Now that I take a closer look, the line also looks like letters. They look like letters from the obverse but are lightly imprinted on liberty. The "S" on the pony tail looks the most obvious. As I look at the line across the brim of the hat, they look like letters now, appears to be the word "state" from the obverse. I have to make sure this isn't the picture going weird, but I see letters especially the S on the ponytail.