Question on machine doubling.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by ddk2881, Feb 16, 2019.

  1. ddk2881

    ddk2881 Active Member

    First is this machine doubling or die deterioration, second why do all aspects spear to go towards the rim? Is this typical. Also how does it maintain small details like the flares on top an bottom of E. I have not yet seen on every word until now that is. IMG_20190216_110113.jpg IMG_20190216_110028.jpg IMG_20190216_110028.jpg IMG_20190216_110003.jpg IMG_20190216_105913.jpg IMG_20190216_105742.jpg IMG_20190216_105742.jpg
     
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  3. VT4Pac

    VT4Pac Active Member

    Based on your pics, I believe this is a combination of die deterioration and plating issues common on copper plated zinc cents. Machine doubling is more flat/shelf-like and appears cleaner in my opinion. If I remember correctly the reason that it moves to the rim has something to do with the pressure of the strike and the tension/stress on the thin layer of copper plating. I'm not sure about the detail your referring to on the E.

    I'm definitely not an expert though and if I'm wrong I'm sure someone will jump on here and correct me.
     
  4. ken454

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  5. ddk2881

    ddk2881 Active Member

    Thank you for the info I have seen slot of this and am still very new to this. I can look at slot of confirmed doubled dies I see online and see nothing. also I can somewhat identify machine doubling again very new to this but I didn't think this coin completely fit either bill due to on this coin you can see the hole in the R above the R and didn't think that could be achieved with machine doubling also separation from the horizontal T top and slightly on bottom curve of S. Here are pictures that might show this a little better, but probably not. I'm not saying its DD because I'm not sure what it is just don't understand the aspects I mentioned above. IMG_20190216_145946.jpg
     

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  6. ddk2881

    ddk2881 Active Member

    Thanks for info here is best pics I can get if you can see the leg up on the far right of bottom leg of E IMG_20190216_125033.jpg
     
  7. VT4Pac

    VT4Pac Active Member

  8. ddk2881

    ddk2881 Active Member

    Thanks for info and thanks for looking. Also the color your seeing is from shadows ,glare and filter I used to try and get clearer photo of what I was seeing.
     
  9. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    yes, split plate doubling.

    you should repeat to yourself until you hear it in your dreams ... "Zincoln cents are horrible and one should avoid at all costs".

    here's a good reference for it
    https://errorvariety.com/OFD/PSD.html
     
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