Question from a newbie

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by oldcrowcritter, Oct 12, 2007.

  1. oldcrowcritter

    oldcrowcritter New Member

    I was wondering if there was any reason an indian head cent would have the thickness of a nickel. I don't have accurate enough scales to give an actual weight, but the crappy scale I do have was fluctuating between 4 and 6 grams. I guess my basic question is is there a difference in thickness between the Cu/Ni cents and the bronze cents. Thank you in advance.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Howdy oldcrowcritter - Welcome to the forum !!

    There are a couple of things I can think of that could happen post mint, but from the sound of things it's not a genuine coin. It might be a token - can you post a pic ?
     
  4. Snowman

    Snowman Senior Member

    Crow Critter -

    sounds like you have one of IHC copper-nickel cents 1859-1864

    according to the Red book 1859-1864's as suppose to weigh 4.67g 19mm

    and the bronze 1864's and later weigh 3.11g and 19mm

    with a difference of 1.56 grams they have to get thicker

    I know that with my flying eagles 1857-58 and IHC 1859-64 collection - they are alot thicker and very noticeable over regular cents

    hope this helps
     
  5. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    Yeah, the earlier Indian Cents were a little thicker. They would have dates from 1859-1864.
     
  6. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    The rim could have been spooned a bit, too.
    That would give it a thicker appearance.
     
  7. oldcrowcritter

    oldcrowcritter New Member

    Pics

    I appreciate all your responses. I've only recently started collecting the indian heads, and this is my first pre-64 piece. The 2 pictures are the coin in question with a regular indian head cent for comparision. I appreciate any further info you could give me.

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  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    oldcrowcritter
    Welcome to the forum !!

    And that is a coppernickel Indian Head cent.
    Dated, 1862, and a very nice one also.

    Take good care of it.
    And, yes, it is supposed to be thicker than a normal (or regular) cent.
     
  9. oldcrowcritter

    oldcrowcritter New Member

    Thanks everyone

    You have just increased my hapiness factor today by at least 2x today. I appreciate everyone's input. So, another question, is this coin an XF or an AU. Let me know if you need better pictures.
     
  10. ewasherman

    ewasherman New Member

    what a beauty, I thought I had a very nice 63 but you have put me to shame.
     
  11. JHar4330

    JHar4330 New Member

    From the picture I can't see any wear so I'd say AU+ but I am not a good grader don't take my advice lol (why am i commenting then? lol). Nice coin, hang on to it for a while it is a nice piece.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I would say XF based on the pics you have.
     
  13. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    AHHHHH. Please don't handle that coin with you fingers. PLEASE. You'll end up with your fingerprints all over the place. Nice coin.
     
  14. oldcrowcritter

    oldcrowcritter New Member

    Yeah, I normally don't even take coins out of the holders I get them in, but for some reason I wanted to take a closer look at this one. Also at the time of the pictures, I was under the assumption that it was not genuine. That'll teach me to go thinking ever again.
     
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