Question for die experts, EDS vs LDS?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Barney McRae, May 25, 2025 at 9:34 PM.

  1. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Help me understand by telling me if I am getting this concept correctly.

    With EDS, coins with major clashes are rarer and more desirable due the fact that over time, clashes will become more muted and less dramatic from the dies being smoother or possibly repaired or more polished in later die stages. With LDS, die cracks are more desirable, prominent, and valuable as the die deteriorates and becomes more damaged.

    Am I on the right track here? Or is there something else that factors in? Thanks.
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Yes, on the correct track. Just ask @dwhiz. :D
    HERE"S A START:
    EDS (Early Die State) and LDS (Late Die State) refer to the condition and wear of the die used to strike a coin, which affects the appearance of the coin itself. - EDS (Early Die State): This is when the die is new or has seen very little use. Coins struck in this state typically have very sharp, crisp details with strong, well-defined features. The design elements, such as letters and numbers, appear bold and clear. Collectors often prize EDS coins for their exceptional eye appeal and detail. - LDS (Late Die State): This occurs after the die has been used extensively. Coins struck in this state show signs of die wear, such as softened or flattened details, die cracks, chips, or scratches. The design elements may appear less sharp, and some fine details can be lost or blurred. In summary, EDS coins have sharper, more detailed features due to minimal die wear, while LDS coins show signs of die deterioration, resulting in less crisp details. The die state is separate from the coin’s grade or condition but can influence collector preference based on the coin’s visual appeal. For more detailed examples and photos of die states, you can visit: VarietyVista Die State Explanation (http://varietyvista.com/25 What Are Die Varieties/Die State.htm)
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I want to try and answer your question but just can't type the words right. Most clashes are caught and polished out. If proper maintenance wasn't done to the press, the dies will clash again. It was often for the mint to take care of the problem before searching and picking the coins from circulation. The earliest of the variety is usually the one most sought after. Clashes are a lot of fun.
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    These are circulation finds. I wonder sometimes if any others will be found.
    2020D. I don't think that these were struck but maybe a 100 apart, if that, I haven't passed up a 2020D in 4+ years. Looking for a 3rd.
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    Hey Barney, you were probably referring to Morgans.
     
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