Question about whether I damage my ancients if...?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Herberto, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    I have asked a similar question before here:

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-to-handle-a-gold-or-silver.297494/page-2

    Apparently, it was no problem that gold/silver coins being mixed together in museums.


    I have some else problem of similar matter:

    I intend to expand the hoard of gold/silver, but i have no room and I am glad for my cointray.

    Look at (some) of my golds/silvers. One in each space:

    1.JPG

    2.JPG



    However, can I store them in this way?:

    3.JPG

    One first line: Solidus intermingled with a fouree Solidus.

    Second line: Miliaresions and corroded milliaresions intermindgled.

    Third line: Concave coins intermingled with each other.


    Just this: Can I store my coins in that way as illustrated in image number 3? Or is this stupid and risky?

    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2017
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  3. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I can't imagine why you would want to. Why let them rub metal on metal? If you can afford gold and silver, you can afford enough trays to put one coin per hole.
     
  4. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    I do have a coin case, and i cannot add an ekstra tray into it. - I want to keep my coin case if posible, but if this system would damage them then i would surely buy a new coin case.
     
  5. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    I agree with valentinian...forego 1 LRB and buy another tray
    Sorry! you posted at the same time as me...keep em seperate they look NICER!
     
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  6. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Too messy, risky, and unnecessary.
     
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  7. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Probably safest method is to store your coins in SAFLIPS/ in a coin album....

    here is mine...few sample pages. Coins should NEVER be handled unless with special handling gloves. John john photos 1 035 (Medium).jpg john photos 1 007 (Large).jpg john photos 1 008 (Large).jpg john photos 1 009 (Large).jpg john photos 1 010 (Medium) (Large).jpg
     
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    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

  9. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Thanks for this remark. I have the same problem with my ever expanding collection. I’ll order some trays and leave addictive Ebay for a week.
     
  10. Herberto

    Herberto Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the advices.

    Just for clarification, I have decided not to expand. It was just Friday night at the end of the month, and then I saw an upcoming auction with interesting lot(s). In a distant future, if I decide to expand, I would surely have to purchase a new coin case.

    That system of Panzerman would not work if you have late histamenon and hyperpyron which all are concave. They will crack I fear.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Storage is a real problem when a collection reaches a certain size. I use paper envelopes to store my coins and keep the bulk down to what I can carry in one trip. When our collections grow, we face tough choices.

    This is not my coin room:
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    http://www.smb.museum/museen-und-einrichtungen/muenzkabinett/ueber-uns/profil.html

    Counting drawers and holes in the open trays, my collection would fit in one of these wall units with room to spare (I'm guessing each holds ~5000 coins and the part of the room we see in this image over 100,000???).

    Seriously, most of our CT members with high value coins limit their collections to a smaller number of coins. I believe trays are the best answer but that is a serious investment for a collection of thousands of coins. My coins are mostly cheap and not offended by paper envelopes. You need to buy a tray or sell some coins.
     
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  12. Barry Murphy

    Barry Murphy Well-Known Member

    Panzerman, you don’t need gloves to handle your coins. Clean hands are a good idea, I wouldn’t handle bronzes after eating a bag of chips, but you won’t hurt ancient or medieval couns w your fingers.
     
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  13. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    How many trays do you have in your coin case? I see only one tray. I have more than one holder for trays. One is a small case that holds two trays and has 20 spaces per tray. For my aes collection, I sometimes have more than one item per tray. I would not double up anything that is "mint state" or close to that grade. Most ancient coins do not approach mint state, but some gold and a few silver ones do. Scratches are bad for high grade coins. Never stack in the trays.
    storing Aes Grave 6.JPG

    I also have two Abafil brief cases. They hold more trays and coins per tray.
    IMG_4782.JPG

    I always carry the cases flat. It looks a bit strange to carry a brief case flat, but I put them in a LARGE IKEA bag.

    I bought the small cases new, and the larger ones used. Unless your collection is big, one or two of these should hold your collection, and fit in a safe or your safe deposit box.
     
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  14. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector

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  15. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    Do you really need to do this? I would never put old coins in contact each other: it increases the chances of risks and damages and, furthermore, of chemical reactions of elements on the surface of the coins.
     
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  16. greekandromancoins

    greekandromancoins Well-Known Member

    Some interesting storage methods above!

    I use archive flips currently. I place them into coin album inserts which I then store in large boxes. I will probably start using coin albums for convenience.

    I have tried those individual narrow coin boxes where you store coin flips like slides. However, I found that the coin flips would struggle to stay upright if I put too few and would easily spill out of the box if I put too many.

    I like the idea of trays, visually, and it probably results in quicker toning of silver coins (the ones I have stored in archive flips for over a decade have barely toned, if at all!). However probably not convenient for my purposes.

    Peter
     
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