Question about toning

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ahearn, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. ahearn

    ahearn Member

    I have an ASE that is perfect except for two small "doughnut" shaped circles that are *slightly* greenish in color. One is about 3mm and the other about 2mm. The circles are not perfect but a little irregular. Water doesn't remove them. Is it toning? Will it spread from there?

    The odd thing here is the hole in the center of both circles. The hole is maybe 1mm on both.
     
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  3. GoldCoinLover

    GoldCoinLover Senior Member

    Sounds like PVC...take a whiff of the coin, does it smell like a shower curtain?

    You'll need acetone to remove it, which is dangerous stuff so becareful. Post pictures though, just to be sure.
     
  4. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Or milk spots
     
  5. GoldCoinLover

    GoldCoinLover Senior Member

    My bad, I bet you're right. I heard alot of ASE's have milkspots...

    Still wouldn't hurt to post some pics.
     
  6. ahearn

    ahearn Member

    Thanks for the responses.

    Unfortunately, I don't have my good camera right now. I tried a brief acetone wipe with a QTip -- didn't soak -- but it didn't have any effect.

    What is a milk spot and how can it be removed safely?
     
  7. GoldCoinLover

    GoldCoinLover Senior Member

    I'm not sure exactly what it is or how it is caused, but many american silver eagles have them for some reason...even straight from the mint.

    I'm sorry but I just don't know the answer.
     
  8. ahearn

    ahearn Member

    I've tried acetone and also a dip that is the same chemical as EZest, with no results. Also a search of this forum resulted in a number of threads and posts that seem to be saying that nothing will remove the spots. Oh well...
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Milk spots are caused by the planchet washing process that the mint uses. And they cannot be removed safely. Once there, they stay there.

    Now if you find a way to safely remove them you're gonna be one happy camper. PCGS has a standing reward of $50,000 for the person who can do this.
     
  10. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    most will come off with acetone
    Your welcome!!!
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Boy, I'd really like you to show me some that would.
     
  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Is the mint still using the same washing process that causes the milk spotting? You would think they would have changed once they discovered that it was causing spotting and as a result basically a defective product.
     
  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Really, Jello, what the heck did you mean by that? :goofer:
     
  14. Mr. Coin Lover

    Mr. Coin Lover Supporter**

    I've seen milk spots on these before, but not that had a greenish tint to them.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well, since the coins still seem to develop the spots it seems they haven't.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What many people "call" milk spots - aren't milk spots.
     
  17. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    back in 1994 I got roll of 20 & 2 had milk spot on them. I soaked the 2 in acetone them rinse with distilled water.spot were gone then sent to Ngc.
    all but were graded by Ngc MS-69 & 1 MS-68
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Neither NGC no PCGS refuse to grade & slab a coin because of milk spots. They do it every day.

    And if it was so easy jello, and acetone worked - why would PCGS offer to pay anybody who has a working solution $50,000 ?

    That reward has never been claimed, because acetone, and nothing else yet found does work.
     
  19. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    It did on mine
     
  20. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I would imagine the spotting on your coins was due to some kind of toning and not the spotting caused by the washing process.
     
  21. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    You may right but all the folks I show them to called them milk spots
     
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