Question About The National Park Commemorative Quarter Program

Unless I overlooked it, I didn't see anything about what the obverse design would be. The whereas section describes Theodore Roosevelt. Will Teddy be on the obverse, or will it still remain as George Washington?

 

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I was under the impression that the next quarter design would have the obverse return the previous Washington quarter obverse (1932-98)...but I don't have a source for that. I just read it somewhere so I could be wrong.

Now, although I am against another "quarter series"...I do feel that if they go with a National Parks series that Teddy Roosevelt is the appropriate person to have on the obverse.

 

The obverse will be the same as it's been since 1999. However, I was checking, and it seems that only 35 states have national parks. of those that do, California has five or six.

Now, what about things like Midway National wildlife refuge, which isn't actually part of anything, territory-wise, will IT be included? Or the FDR/Campobello monument in New Brunswick Canada? or the Interzone national monument in Tangier, MOROCCO?

this is a conundrum.

 

When you read the legislation you find that the choices can be National Parks or National Historic Sites. I would bet that every state has MANY National Historic Sites If they include Natioanl Historic Landmarks under that classification for possible choices then there are some 2500 possibilities and apparently in all 56 jurisdictions. The list can be found here. http://www.nps.gov/history/nhl/designations/Lists/LIST08.pdf

 

Yeah, but the ones I specifically mentioned are not in ANY of those 56 jurisdictions.

http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=5988

the above link explains some of it.

 

Then they would not be chosen by any state, would they?

Not EVERY National Park and EVERY National Wildlife Refuge (and EVERY other National whatever) will be represented on a coin. There will simply be one chosen by every state (and territory?) -- unless the program is run through a second time.

 

which would be a pity.

 

And every state will pick Grant's Tomb on Riverside drive and we can get it all over with quickly.

Ruben

 

Yes, but can anyone point to the part of the legislation that states that Washington is to be featured on the obverse? I couldn't find it. I hope they use Teddy too.

 

The initial proposal was for 56 coins, 5 per year, for 11 years. And with provisions for a second round of 56 more after that http://www.castle.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=668&Itemid=78

The obverse design is not specified as being changed from what it is now, but this

(8) DESIGNS AFTER END OF PROGRAM- Upon the completion of the coin program under this subsection, the design on--
`(A) the obverse of the quarter dollar shall revert to the same design containing an image of President Washington in effect for the quarter dollar before the institution of the 50-State quarter dollar program; and
`(B) notwithstanding the fourth sentence of subsection (d)(1), the reverse of the quarter dollar shall contain an image of General Washington crossing the Delaware River prior to the Battle of Trenton.​

is found in the Bill's final version http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:5:./temp/~c110M9Gtae:: The final version of the Bill provides

(2) SINGLE SITE IN EACH STATE- The design on the reverse side of each quarter dollar issued during the period of issuance under this subsection shall be emblematic of 1 national site in each State.​

The bottom line is, Washington, in the present design, will be on the obverse of the quarters. There will be 50 quarters issued, one each for a site in each state and at the end of the program, the obverse will revert to the pre-1999 design, with Washington crossing the Delaware on the reverse.

 

The worse thing about this program is that it will either

A) Go on for more than my lifetime
B) Go on for longer than Business Coinage..the quarter dollar coin will be dead before this coin program is finished.

 

"State" in this instance is used to mean all "separate" jurisdictions within the USA, which includes the six territories on this year's quarters, plus the "Pacific Island trust territories" and probably others, like an uninhabited island in the Caribbean we own. There could be as many as 70 of these, but I'm not sure.

Also, Delaware, which everyone agrees is a state, has no "nationional parks/monuments/whatevers within it's borders.

 

You mean to tell me they don't have SOMETHING that would qualify out of this definition

 

No. There's a small part of the "John Smith national Nature Trail" that clips the northeast edge of the state, but other than that there's nothing.

I think the treasury department's going to let Delaware's government fudge it.

 

Don't get ahead of yourself. "State" in the context of this law means only the fifty current states in the United States - thus the statement that 50 quarters will be issued under this law. "There will be 50 quarters issued, one each for a site in each state... "

I'm sure Delaware will come up with something - maybe PA and NJ will let them borrow the Delaware Water Gap.

 

Then why does the legislation say otherwise?

 

I dont think delaware has to worry to much.


There is no place quite like Delaware. Escape to “Chateau Country” for riveting landscapes made famous by Andrew Wyeth’s paintings. Watch the sun rise over the ocean at the Great Dune near Lewes and a great blue heron as it takes flight from the marshlands of Bombay Hook Wildlife Refuge. This year, retrace history along the Nanticoke and Broad Creek rivers with the Captain John Smith Reenactment Voyage.

Quoted from the visit Delaware tourism website...

 

To quote my quote where I quoted the sentence directly from the final version of the law, "There will be 50 quarters issued, one each for a site in each state... " What do you see that says something different?

 

how many states are there?

Okay, let's quote the actual bill

which, of course leads us here:

Now this is the part in question. any territory of the United States, which is listed seperately with the six entities which have their own quarters this year and that strange Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands, which may or may not include the island of Yap and the Marshall Islands.

"Any territory of the United States" included, until the day before yesterday, the Green Zone in Baghdad and today includes the prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba...or does it? Any US embassy or consulate is extraterritorially American. Gitmo has banks and ATMs which are gaurenteed by the FDIC.

Does Campobello "international park" qualify? we'll see.

 

You are correct. H.R. 6184, as passed, does include the language you cite. The link (now dead) I provided previously was prior to the bill's being sent to the President for signature and mentioned only 50 states.

It's interesting that, given Delaware's apparent lack of National Parks or Sites that the Rep. Michael Castle [R-DE] of Delaware is the one who sponsored this bill to start with. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-6184