I have a ANACS slabbed coin, but it state that the coin has been Cleaned on the holder. If i submit the coin for cross-over to either PCGS or NGC, will they take it? Because I heard some grading company will return cleaned coin and still keep the processing fee. Someone help me out over here please Thanks!!
NGC and PCGS DO NOT slab harshly cleaned coins. If the Anacs holder has a net grade, DO NOT waste your money trying to cross it over. It will be body-bagged.
Frankly, I don't think PCGS, NGC and ICG take ANY coins that have been dipped or cleaned. I have sent coins off for grading that I never thought they were cleaned and as ND stated, they came back "body-bagged (meaning...they were sent back in a plastic flip with a nice message as to why they would NOT grade the coin, but still charged you for it). Save your money and live with the coin. Anacs will grade "problem" coins and will state that on the slab you have.
I am reluctant to make this post for fear that many will not understand it and get the wrong idea. For myself and many others, on any of the coin forums have always preached - do not clean your coins - ever ! But in the interest of accuracy and truthfullness I feel this needs to be said. Even so - DO NOT CLEAN YOUR COINS ! In one way this true - in another way this is not true. Just like with the grade of a coin - there are different degrees of cleaning & dipping. NGC, PCGS & ICG have all slabbed vast numbers of coins that have been dipped. And in some cases, PCGS has been known to dip a coin themselves ( when they thought it would improve the grade ) before slabbing it - without even getting the owner's permission or telling the owner that they did dip it. It is pretty much an accepted fact that 80 - 90% of all Morgan dollars have been dipped at one time or another. Similar percentages also apply to other denominations of early silver coinage. So it would be foolish to say that the grading companies won't slab a dipped coin. Otherwise we wouldn't have any slabbed Morgans or slabbed early silver coins. But as I said - there are different degrees of dipping. A coin can be and often is over-dipped. In other words - it has been dipped too many times. This results in the coin having little or no original luster remaining. And these coins will often be body-bagged. Cleaning is another issue entirely - for there is cleaning and there is cleaning. For example - NGC's sister company NCS will "conserve" coins and then pass them on to NGC for grading and slabbing. Obviously - these coins have been "cleaned" - but yet they are still graded & slabbed. And over the past 200 yrs there are literally millions of coins that have been cleaned by their owners at one point in time. But yet given time, these coins will re-tone and appear to have original surfaces. It all depends on the degree, or the harshness of the cleaning. These coins are also graded & slabbed by the grading companies. So - it is a matter of definitions and degree when it comes to cleaning & dipping a coin. Do it too much or too harshly - and the coin is ruined and deemed ungradeable. But do it just right - and the coin will be slabbed in a heartbeat - by ANY of the grading companies.
I agree with GD. In my post, I mentioned the net grade that Anacs gives. When a coin has received a net grade from Anacs for cleaning or damage that particular coin will not cross over. I have bought many cleaned coins housed in PCGS and NGC holders. All of the shipwreck recovered coins are cleaned before being graded. Harsh cleaning is what is not accepted. Soap, silver polish are a couple as a point of referrence.
haha, sounds like we are all at the mercy of PCGS... they dip and clean is ok, but when we do it..it's body bag time..
