Question about a quarter

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Shalashaska, Jun 24, 2020.

  1. Shalashaska

    Shalashaska New Member

    This is more of a question but earlier today I came across a rather normal looking 1974 (Philadelphia) quarter. However the sound it makes when dropped against a hard surface doesn't match up to any regular or silver quarter. The edge looks mostly copper but the face and back have the normal (silverish) appearance. Is there a way to tell if it's a fake by the sound?
     
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  3. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    I find it hard to believe that anyone would counterfeit a quarter.
     
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Cents have been counterfieted in mass quantities. Although most would think it isn't worth the gamble it happens all the time. Most of the time with rare coins but it does happen.

    As flr the quarter. Please post photos of both sides and the weight.
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Conducting a stop test is a sure way to damage a coin and it proves nothing. As stated, photos are needed.

    Welcome to CT.
     
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  6. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Not really. An off sound can be suggestive but it is NOT conclusive.
     
  7. Shalashaska

    Shalashaska New Member

    I do not have a scale to test the weight however the sound it makes when it hits a solid surface or brushes against another coin is a higher pitch than a regular coin of the same value. I have not tested against the sound of a silver coin, since I used my phone for pics the quality might be bad.
     

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  9. Shalashaska

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    This is a link to the sound test between a normal 1994 quarter and the 1974 quarter I had found which should sound the exact same but don't
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2020
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    No! It doesn't have to sound the same. The thickness of the coin blanks may vary within certain +/- tolerances. A coin struck in 1974 may have more wear and tear from circulation than a coin struck in 1994. Use a little common sense! ~ Chris
     
  11. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Your coin suffered significant damage. The surface is very rough which isn't normal. It may have suffered heat damage, which could have affected the bonding between the clad and copper core layers and that would change the sound.

    Generally, sound is a very poor method of characterizing a coin due to variability and subjectivity.
     
  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    So many people with perfect pitch.
    Forget about this dropping a quarter/ sound stuff.
     
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  13. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    First, welcome to CT. As other members have mentioned, drop tests and sound are not considered good tests for coins. As @Oldhoopster has posted, your quarter is most like the results of some occurrence that has changed the coin slightly, thus changing the sound. BTW Using Youtube videos in the most part is not advised. Many posters there are just looking for "clicks" and often give erroneous information.
     
  14. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Counterfeit nickels wer in the millions.
     
  15. Phil's Coins

    Phil's Coins Well-Known Member

    The "sound test" is NOT in any way reliable. Find a scale and check the weight of the coin. You can purchase them in several places, I got one at Amos Advantage and carry it with me all the time to test a coin I have doubts about.
    Please DO NOT waste your time or space on CT with "sound tests:
     
  16. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Here is my counterfeit quarter. If it is made in China (or somewhere) at 2 cents apiece and spent for .25 cents, there is a profit to be made. The size is correct, but it is over weight.
    COUNTERFEIT.png
     
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  17. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    And there is a crime committed.
     
  18. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    The head on the Eagle looks more like a seagull's head. The side shot looks more like a nickel.
     
  19. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes that's to show the rim is clearly a fake.
    When I got the quarter it was very "shiny". So I looked at it closer, and I realized it
    was counterfeit. There are other counterfeits of this exact same type floating around. The year, the die crack. I agree about the eagle however, I believe originally the die was made from a real quarter, but after using the die millions of time it has deteriorated. The obverse looks as if it was made from a legit coin, so why would you engrave the reverse die, when you could make one the same way, easier from a real coin.
     
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  20. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Hmmm. Maybe not. Look at the cut outs in the bottom of the wings on the fake. Washington's hair is all wrong especially at the bottom. I retract my former belief. That it was created from a real coin. The leaf cluster is wrong.
    They did engrave a master die.
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  21. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    about 40 years ago, back when i was dealing on the weekends, usually buying on saturdays and selling on sundays (was 14 then ...lol anyways..a guy came up to me with 3 lead (fake)..1964 quarters, 2 quite tarnished, and one shiny but broken in two..i bought em for 1.00 for the 3 for novelty..no longer have em though..so..yeh shouldn't happen, probably never will...but it happened to me...
     
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