i think i found an error coin of this queen victoria 20c.please help me to notice the words of the coin carefully. i have notice the words"queen victoria" are closing to the flame line compare to QV normal coins.i have compared it with more than 10 similar coins of this.normal coin "queen victoria"wording is far away from the flame line and has a big cap.i think this is an error probably due to the ring of the coin is smaller or the words are longer.any suggestion?did this ever happen before in coin history?ill show you my qv 20c coin and a normal qv 20c coin photos.please try your best compare them and let me know what you think.very important!!!
Are you though comparing coins from the same mint? The two examples you show are from different mints therfore would use different dies (The top is from the Heaton Mint in Birmingham, UK)
im not sure what die used on both coins,i only know both are straits settlements coins made in the same year of 1882 and the H below the neck is lower and closing up to the flame too
try to notice the words especially the "A,O AND Q"A and O touching the oval flame line while Q touching the hair.
What I am saying is that the 2 coins pictured above are not from the same mint one has the 'H' for heaton and the other does not. Now as far as I am aware the 20c (Strait Settlement) for that year was only produced at the Heaton mint so you would need to compare with other like coins (Ie same year with the 'H' on) they proberly did use more than 1 die also there were two known versions the normal strike and a proof strike, it is possible that you might have a proof strike! I cant realy say.
your sounded like your an expert in this coins,mind to explain what is the normal strike and a proof strike?sorry i only having this H coin and dont have another,i cannot find the same coin at any website from the same year as well
Me an expert LOL far from it, the strike on a proof is cleaner more crisp as it would have been struck at least twice with a clean new die, the run of the mill coins were struck once and continuosly until the die wore out or the run was compleat. The problem here is that you are trying to compare this coin with others and you cant do that. The coins of the Strait Settlements were produced in 3 different mints (Not all at once) and the 1882 20c was only produced at the Heaton mint (With the 'H' below the neck) the only coin that you can compare it with is another 20c of the same date. I see one of the coins pictured above is from 1888, that coin was produced some 6 years later at a different factory so can not be used for comparison.
how did u know made in heaton factory?you worked there before?100+years ago LOL is proof strike coins series consider as "error" coins?
what is the value for this normal proof and strike proof coins?and is the strike proof coin common?as i never seen any of strike proof coin like this before
Ok I will take it from your comment that you know nothing about coins and continue from there. How do I know it is from the Heaton mint, quite easily it has the Heaton mint mark on it the letter 'H' also by looking in the Krauss coin catalouge I can see that for the year in question 1882 only one mint produced 20 cent coin for the Strait settlement. Proof strikes are not errors they are specialy produced coins that are produced to a higher standard than what we would call a buisness strike (Normal) Now I do not know if that is a proof or not and have not said it is LOL
hi orc bro,i saw someone is selling the same coin with the same year and H at http://cgi.ebay.com/1879-H-STRAITS-...goryZ534QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem just copy and paste it and try to notice the character A E N and heaton'H' are in difference position soo obviously,so my coin is what proof?error or strike proof?check it out and let me know what you think
I can see that the 'H' is positioned slightly diffrently but all that says to me is it could be a different die, it dont make it an error coin! As for what sort of strike it is agsain I will tell you I cant tell, as I say Krauss says there are two a proof and a Normal. What it dosnt tell me is how many dies were used in the production of the coin.
