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Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by saltysam-1, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    I'm going to really stretch the topic issue here and ask a question about old bank checks. After all checks are accepted as money for transactions. So... Why do I find Internal Revenue Stamps on some older canceled checks? They are usually present when the check is written for a large amount. Was this a form of certification by the issuing bank? Your thoughts or a web site on this topic would be helpful.
     
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  3. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Hi Saltysam,
    The first Revenue stamps were issued in 1862. not just checks, but all official documents were required to have a tax stamp. The program was started as a method of paying for the Civil war. Google "revenue stamp & civil war" and you will find many sites about the subject.

    Richard
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    How old are these checks? The collection of taxes to pay the Civil War debts that was enacted by Lincoln was repealed 10 years later, and the Internal Revenue Service wasn't officially established by Constitutional Amendment until the 20th century.

    http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=149200,00.html

    Is it possible that the IRS stamp was used for verifying the purpose of the transaction? It used to be that banks had to report any single transaction that exceeded $10,000, and I believe that amount is now $5,000.

    Chris
     
  5. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    the first stamp labeled "internal rev." was released in 1862. You are confusing stamps designed to raise revenue with the internal revenue service.

    Richard
     
  6. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    Although I am not certain as to the exact amount that is required for reporting to IRS, I was told that my bank reported every transaction of $3,000 or more and Casinos here in Nevada now report winnings of $1,000 or more. But I believe that with the evolution of data transfer and memory storage that virtually every transaction will be tracked eventually. IMHO

    But I also think that the stamp was probably used to verify that the check was reported

    gary
     
  7. Pilkenton

    Pilkenton almost uncirculated

    Do people collect old checks? I imagine they do. I have a couple cancelled checks from celebrities I bought. One Lynda Day George and one Kathleen Quinlan.
     
  8. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    I have added this photo of a check with the Revenue Stamp affixed, P1010695.jpg
    for those who have not seen one.
     
  9. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    That stamp appears to be a Scott #R135 with a value of 20 cents. Revenue stamps were extremely common in the lower denominations.

    Richard
     
  10. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Here's a close up of just the 2C Revenue Stamp
    P1010782.jpg
     
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