Ptolemeic Coppers for ID please.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by PaddyB, Sep 13, 2021.

  1. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Just when I thought the chap in the market had no more for me, he turned up with these. I think I understand the latter three are from the time of Ptolemy VI and VIII because of the two eagle reverses, but the first three - which Ptolemy are these?

    Coin A measures about 35mm:
    Ptolemy A 1-side.JPG

    Coin B about 27mm:
    Ptolemy B 1-side.JPG

    Coin C about 26mm:
    Ptolemy C 1-side.JPG

    Coin D about 29mm:
    Ptolemy D 1-side.JPG

    Coin E about 20mm:
    Ptolemy E 1-side.JPG

    Coin F another 20mm:
    Ptolemy F 1-side.JPG

    I can't see anything wrong with these from an authenticity point of view, but if you think otherwise please say. The chap wants me to buy them and I need to assess a fair price to offer, so I don't want to end up with any duds!
    Thanks.
     
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  3. philologus_1

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  4. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    I have got a long way with most of them thanks to @philologus_1 suggestion. I would still appreciate anyone's views to see if I have them right.
    In particular the last one seems to come under the "Issues with Unusual Symbols" section, but I am not sure what the symbol to the left of the Eagles is meant to be?
     
  5. philologus_1

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    @PaddyB - Below is a snip from the "PtolemyBronze.com" page which shows your last coin. The symbol in the left field of the reverse is described as a silphium plant.
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    Trust this helps! :)
     
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  6. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    That is great - thanks! The site is brilliant but often it refers to symbols without showing what they are supposed to look like, or being clear where they should be seen.
     
  7. PtolemAE

    PtolemAE Member


    Bottom two are the same - both extremely common Sv 1426 likely from 2nd half of 2nd C. BC. Symbol next to the eagles is a stylized cornucopia or pair.

    The others should be very easy to track on

    ptolemybronze.com

    in the coin pictures page.

    BTW - Two eagles is not diagnostic of a particular Ptolemaic king.

    PtolemAE
     
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  8. PaddyB

    PaddyB Eccentric enthusiast

    Yes - I had learnt that after more research. Definitely a lot to learn - British milled coinage is my usual stamping ground so all these ancients are making me learn a lot of new stuff.
     
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