Problem MS70 ASE's

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  1. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    MS69 sub-$100 MS70 $4000 ???!!!
     
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  4. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Ridiculous. I'd be perfectly happy with MS67!
     
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  5. Insider

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    TPGS's do not guarantee the grade of SE anymore due to spots that may develop on a "perfect" MS-70 (as originally graded) in a slab over time. I think this policy is a few years old. Edit: See video. :eggface::facepalm:

    ALSO FAIR WARNING: Some TPGS's have a product that is sealed in a coin tube and graded. DO NOT OPEN THESE TUBES! I learned a lesson the hard way. :facepalm:
     
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  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Sounds painful...in the wallet.
     
  7. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    What about the horrible 2016 ase's already spotted and dinged with tiny debris strikethroughs that are getting 70!? Who cares about milk spots when today's standard is so lax. But yeah, playing the pre 2000 ase 70 game is one of buy & flip quick!
     
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  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    If you want a gold star for accumulating registry points, buy 70s, otherwise sell them. I collect my ASEs in a Dansco album. Quite satisfying.
     
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  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Since they no longer guarantee against spots, PERHAPS some slide by - not saying that is true or a good thing. There should not be any visible nicks though. SE are graded by eye. I've seen "junk" in all the TPGS slabs.

    The major TPGS standards allow for strike thru's. BOO! That's technical grading (as made). We each have eyes and can make our own INFORMED choices about a coin's perfection. It's the "sheep" that get fleeced.

    @SuperDave See, another case where CT opinions mean nothing, do nothing, and will not affect TPGS standards in any way.
     
  10. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    As an aside, James looks a lot older than when I first met him in 2006.

    Say wait, that was 10 years ago!! smack.gif
     
  11. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    I collect ASE's (bullion strike) in a Dansco. I also put Maple Leafs in a Dansco and Kooks in a Littleton album.
     
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  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I remember James Sago during the Kennedy Gold fiasco of 2014. He hired a boatload of people to line up for those things.
     
  13. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I was at his table that year doing photos, and he was set up right across from the Mint cashier with Alan Hager. What a freakin' zoo. We were all glad when that was shut down.
     
  14. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    Nice video. My question is, who's the blonde in the background? :)
     
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  15. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    She was a representative of Eckard Enterprises, an energy asset management company looking for investors. I was set up with James at that show. You can see my computer and a camera lens sitting on the back table on the left.
     
  16. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I didn't see them, I was watching her put lipstick on. :D
     
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  17. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    QA is a competing service to CAC ?
     
  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Sort of but not really, same idea but QA does modern coins. There are only a couple things that would be eligible for both services since CAC does very few moderns. Some Lincolns/Ikes/Jefferson's could go to both off the top of my head but for the most part they operate in different areas.
     
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  19. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    That's what I was thinking as well. Can't believe messy had an answer though lol
     
  20. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Cac does ikes? And so lincolns can go cac, qa or snow? Geeze, makes me wanna try for all 3 on one slab and what's the best strategy as to which order to send them to? Sounds like a fun thing to try to accomplish though if one is bored and so inclined
     
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  21. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    All 3 on the same slab is called a grand slam or hat trick!
     
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