Pricing US Large Cents in the 1816-1839 Date Range

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by kanga, Nov 19, 2023.

  1. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    This is my new interest area.
    The problem is that there are MANY factors.

    1. Dates - at this time I'm not paying serious attention to the Braided Hair issues (1839-1857).

    2. Identifying Die Varieties (Newcomb Number)
    -- I'm currently using books by Noyes and Wright.
    -- The Braided Hair issues (1839-1857) are on the back burner for now because there are often many die varieties per date (30-50), many of which take require coins graded in the MS 63-65 range to identify. (I also have Grellman's book which I'll use later to help with these coins.)
    -- Images from online auctions often leave much to be desired for IDing varieties.

    3. Grade - Strictly a function of price which means mostly below MS; I'd like to get VF to AU.

    4. Rarity - I'm using the Noyes' books to guide me in this.

    5. Value Source - I'd like to find auction results tied to grade and Newcomb Number, but's easier said than done. Right now I primarily use the Greysheet but it doesn't tie in with Newcomb Numbers nor rarity very well. And I haven't investigated PCGS pricing.

    I'm looking for suggestions as to how best to price a coin.
    Currently I'm using the Greysheet and trying to match it with a coin's description.
    What do you do IF you can ID a coin's grade AND die variety?
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  3. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    I would use the PCGS price guide as a guide. It seems to have the most extensive listing of Newcomb numbers in brown that I have found. There are Newcomb numbers on PCGS that are not listed for brown but are listed for red brown and red.

    PCGS does have auction records by Newcomb number.

    CAC also has a price guide of brown cents by Newcomb number.
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  4. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    What about EAC Auction records. Those are always listed by die marriage numbers and I think you're a member, aren't you?
  5. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I knew about the PCGS records.
    I wasn't aware of the CAC price guide.
    Thanks for the heads-up.
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  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Yes, I'm an EAC member.
    I didn't know they had auction records.
    Thanks for pointing that out to me.
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