Pretty cool contemporary counterfeit 3 cent silver on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252611131707?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Seller apparently doesn't know it's a counterfeit. Lots if people collect these.

 

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Care to walk me through it being counterfeit?

 

Look at the clumsy lettering around the perimetres of the coin. Letter alignment is off. The features of the design are off a bit too. But it is a pretty cool contemporary counterfeit, actually more interesting than the real thing if you ask me.

 

Thanks, I wasn't sure all the pointers but I could definitely see the letters looked funky. I always think it is good to explain why something is fake for newbies.

 

It looks a little "cartooney" when you put it side by side with a real one. The shield, letters, etc. It's kinda globby, like a high school art student tried really hard to copy one by eyeballing it. It's actually probably worth $30-$40 as a contemporary counterfeit. I've seen some rare dates like this too, but 1860 is a counterfeit of a common one. I think @ldhair had one?

 

I'm a fan of counterfeit coins, more specifically contemporary ones, they have a history of their own.

 

It could just be the pic but the coin looks to be a lot thicker than the real coin which is unbelievable thin.

 

I bent one back to near flat with my fingers once. Haha

 

I thought the same thing.

 

I will let you know when I recieve it

It will go nicely with my other CCs.

Here is Gerry Fortin's list of ones for sale. He's got an 1860 listed as well
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/FS_Lists/bogo.htm

 

Where is my commission????

 

Haha oh right. Thank you very much. As for commission... Well you get to be graced with my online presence and maybe id even consider to concede the next time we have a discussion over Daniel Carr lol

 

Good on you.

I do not think the seller offered the coin with any malice in mind, but it rather bothers me that someone who sells exclusively numismatic items - he currently has over 400 coins listed - is taken so easily by a counterfeit.

 

At least it's a collectable counterfeit that's actually worth something, but there are series that I don't know either. Like colonials. You could hand me a fake and swear it was real and I wouldn't know the difference.

 

Nor would I, but if either of us were to plan on selling one you know we'd both ensure its' authenticity before offering it. Heck, the seller probably left money on the table by failing to authenticate it; despite HPA Ebay would probably never have done anything about it being listed as a fake as long as the seller was careful with his wording and avoided keywords.

 

Very true. And, yes, people knowingly sell contemporary counterfeit busties all the time. "Bogus" is usually the key word. A-LA Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Lmao

 

Same here. Thats why I stay away from colonials and because im tired of owning old copper coins with poor details and or corrosion

 

It's easy for a generalist dealer to get fooled. I bought a CC 3CS from a dealer who noticed the crazy die breaks. But not the crooked lines of the star outline. When I returned a couple shows later with photos that showed it clearly, he was upset with himself and wanted to make it right.

The laugh? As a crazy die break it was probably worth the $100 I paid, but as a contemporary counterfeit more like $150...

 

Well here she is in all her glory.




The thickness seems normal as does the weight at .77 grams.
Appears to be struck in german silver using hand carved dies. I really like the condition of this coin and doesnt appear to have been used in circulation much, if at all. Thanks again to @C-B-D

 

Did you ever message the seller to tell him what he had? Would be a good opportunity for education.