Pre/Post Ren Wax What do you think?

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  1. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    So I cleaned up this Valentinian II AE and noticed that it showed more details when it was wet than when it was dry. I read about ren wax and decided to give it ago. What do you guys think? Better? Worse? The same?

    Valentinian II AE3.
    DN VALENTINIANVS PF AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right
    GLORIA RO-MANORVM, Emperor walking right dragging captive with right hand and holding labarum in left.

    Pre Wax
    Ren Wax Pre.jpg
    Post Wax
    Ren wax Post.jpg

    I unfortunately can't make out the mint but am assuming Sisicia since that's where the majority of my coins are from. Any idea of the mark to the right of the labarum? It looks like a "D" to me but could be something else.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Some improvement with the after.

    Still yet to try the stuff and haven't been in a rush too.
     
  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    quite an improvement
     
  5. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    It's obvious in the "After" that a substance has been applied to the coin. That being said, it's definitely easier to read the legends than on the "Before" image.
     
  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I think I may have used a bit too much. I rubbed it in a bit more after taking the picture so it doesn't have those wet looking spots.
     
  7. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    I've used it on several coins. The first day is usually darker and wetter looking then it will change a bit. I just try to make sure the coins are 100% dry before using it so not to trap water on the coin.
     
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  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I guess the ancients are own their own with this product. It's chemical makeup seems neutral to damage causes, but it does enhance the visual aspects beyond what is natural appearance, and the instructions say to rub it on the surface which would cause some modern's collectors to scream. Many years ago I received a group of higher priced modern coins with this or similar wax on it, and since TPGs were not yet born, I thought the seller was trying to cover some damage or discoloration on the coin, so I rejected them to his anger. Back in the old "open flip and you bought it " days this was the way. I shy away from any coin, modern or 1000 yr old that has liquid shine on the surface. Jim
     
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  9. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    After waxing the coin, I think it would probably be fine to give it a buffing to take off excess wax. Has anyone ever heard of using linseed oil on coins?
     
  10. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    I like it - brings out detail for sure...
    the first is the sellers pic - so not exactly apples to apples.. but it made a big
    difference with this coin..
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  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    i use verdi-care on mine and they are glossy and seems to me details show better, but it only stays that way for a short time then goes back to the way it was, but with a coat on.. i see nothing wrong with the renwax. it does make the details show thru better and to me it's an improvement, but i[ve heard the wax goes yellow after a time...
     
  12. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    I always heat the coin first to remove any moisture... also while the coin is hot the wax is very easy to apply. I then let it cool/dry and give it a quick buff with a soft cloth to "shine" it up.
    As for yellowing - I have never seen this.. but it is easy to wash off and re-apply if this happens. I see no downside and will use it on most bronze coins.
    But to each his own.
     
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  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Anyone use linseed oil?
     
  14. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    I'm very careful with what I put on coins. I don't know much about linseed oil so I've never used it. For bronze coins I've used oil oil to help remove residual gunk and the start of corrosion (with great results) . For ancients only ren wax.
     
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  15. Plumbata

    Plumbata Well-Known Member

    Looks like an improvement to me! I'd bet the coin could have benefited from some extra manual cleaning but it looks good.

    RenWax is 20% Micro-crystalline wax mixed with 80% naptha, neither of which will turn yellow on their own to my knowledge but the nonpolar Naptha could certainly dissolve and draw-out old nasty rancid natural oils applied previously that have turned yellow.
     
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  16. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Beats the olive oil soak. I find this darkens the late roman bronze coins and makes them more difficult to see. I like your results.
     
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  17. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I'm still working on the manual cleaning aspect. I'm worried about damaging the coins.
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    It is kind of scary...
     
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  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Linseed oil is what is called a "drying oil" such is used in "oil paints". They cure on exposure to air and make a plastic coating. I thought the oil would flow to fill in the porosity and then the cure would give a good protective coating. I'm trying it a bit.
     
  20. britannia40

    britannia40 Well-Known Member

    Let me know how it turns out
     
  21. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    I second that. I'm interested in seeing your results.
     
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