Post your fakes!!!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mrweaseluv, Sep 30, 2012.

  1. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Ok we have all probably at one time or another bought a coin that turned out to be a fake or a copy as a hole filler for a book.
    So let's all post our "goof ups".
    This is mine, fortunatly I bought this a few years back when silver was still at about $10 and oz. I'm now told it is a fake though the weight is right unlike on most of the plated/filled varity.
    Regardless of it's being a "fake" i still think it a beautiful coin/round. This one being truely a mint condition coin :D
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  3. Fall Guy

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  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    are you sure that panda is fake?
     
  5. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Ouch i bet that hurt...
    Love the avatar btw, still trying to get my hands on one of those CMH rounds though i got the Desert Storm one when i couldn't get that one.
     
  6. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I'm told and I quote 3 different dealers on this... All the "Real" panda coins have the temple of heaven on the reverse and all the ones with the map are fakes. Only consolation being that 2 of the 3 dealers think it is at least a 1oz silver round rather then the plated one that is all over ebay at moment.
     
  7. jjack

    jjack Captain Obvious

    That panda coin is not really a fake coin it is a medallion, a non china mint issue.
     
  8. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Fake as the day is long. Fills a nice hole that I didn't have $8000 to drop into though.
     

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  9. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    yes, but at the moment there are copies of this medallion galore on the market right now and 95% are fakes as in heavy silver plate or low silver alloy (40%ish).
    on the other hand, i bought it because i thought it an absolutly beautiful peice, and i still do regardless of it's actual worth :D
     
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    We've seen these over and over again. Fortunately, this one didn't cost me anything. When I told the guy it was a fake, he gave it to me.

    Chris
     

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  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I have a few.
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  12. easj3699

    easj3699 Well-Known Member

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    i have seen four fakes of the one on the left i bought it double sealed opened it up it weighed perfect but didnt test, i think it is nickel. the rub on the pandas butt wasnt there before that is from me rubbing it. the only thing i think has a flaw is the temple side the mirror finish isnt smooth but either way it was a nicely done fake. the other panda is cheap, thin, doesnt weigh and was easy to spot. i bought the 2000 knowing it was probably fake since most our but figured it was worth the 30 dollar chance
     
  13. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Well, I wasn't totaly duped on this, I bought knowing full well it was a fake, but the "replica maker" stated it was struck on a 90% silver planchet. He lied, it is not silver. What is this world coming to when you can't even trust your freindly Chinese counterfeiter.:eek:

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  14. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    If the obverse rim wasn't so bad that coin would be scary good at 1st glance .
     
  15. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Sorry about the dust .

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  16. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Maybe at first glance, but I bought it for education purposes and learned there were many problems. In hand, the reeding is all wrong. If you check the MM, you will see it matches no known VAM. And of course there is the silver thing, I can't remember what the weight is, but it is light. This coin while good, poses no serious threat.
     
  17. Ronobrow

    Ronobrow New Member

    Hi,

    Apologies if wrong thread but thought this might be a good place to start.

    Found this in my late fathers collection- remember him telling me he came across it when he was young in the UK probably during the 50's(can't remember how though)

    Looking on the internet I am 99.9% sure it is not a genuine Roman coin- Paduan, again 99.9% sure not a 16th century copy...which leaves the only other reference as possibly an 18th century copy. The only name I can find that relates to this type of coin and date is Carl Becker. Fake.jpg Fakeb.jpg

    Legends are-
    L SEPTIMIVS SEVERVS PERTINAX AVG IMP VII
    DIVI M PII F P M TR P IIII COS II PP

    If anyone can shed any light on this it would be much appreciated...also, is it a collectible in its own right?

    Thanks
     
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Ron, it might be better if you started a new thread in the "World & Ancient" forum for this. We have a lot of those collectors here, and they could probably tell you if it is real or not. The photos are a bit small and dark. Can you improve upon these?

    Chris
     
  19. jjack

    jjack Captain Obvious

    Keep in mind one of common tactic for counterfeiters is to sell coins marked as replicas just so that they perfect the design (getting inputs from their buyers) legally and raise cash while doing it. Once they get it down they can then use silver plate and mix lead-copper to crank out the fakes.
     
  20. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    I know what you are saying, but if you have ever read so of the more upfront interviews with the counterfeiters, you would see than many are smart experienced folk, who already know every detail of what is wrong with their product.

    I would rather post here, arm the average collector with some knowledge, to hopefully prevent them from getting duped. I know there are two sides to this "coin" so to say, but that is my opinion.

    Mike
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

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    Extensive discussion in this thread from late April 2011, and this follow-up thread.

    Cost me nothing in the end except some time, and taught me a great deal about fakes, counterfeit laws, and eBay Buyer Protection.

    Cost the 12-year eBay seller a one-year vacation, along with the coin itself, the shipping fee, and whatever he originally paid for it. To be accurate, it wasn't just my report that sent him on vacation; he was selling lots of other unmarked fakes as legit coins, and several other people filed against him within a short period. I'm still surprised they let him back on after a year.
     
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