Post your Empire of China Coin

we have many threats for british, Canada, and other type coins. I know they are quite a few of Chinese coin collectors out there so figured I'd give this a try here.

1901-1905 Circa Kirin 5 n 10 cash. The 5 cash is much more scarce than the 10 cash.


1901 Kiang-Soo EIVE cash error.


1903 Kirin 10 Cash(es)

1920 50 Cash and 1928 100 Cash

 

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1934 Sichuan/Shan xi 200 Cash (communism)

 

The unslabbed 5 cash is from Fujian Province (Fookien). The Jiangsu 5 cash is actually very nice and highly desirable. 5 cash coins in general are a lot harder to find than one imagine. The Soviet 200 cash is not genuine.

I do have a page that's full of various Chinese coins issued by various provinces. I haven't got around to documenting everything that I have...

http://gxseries.com/numis/china/china_province.htm

Will post my favorite in the next thread.

 

This is one coin that metal head collectors are highly after due to the metal content. I know it's not technically in the Empire era but I had to mention it since it's one coin that's going to be in my collection for a while. Struck (?) in antimony in Guizhou Province (Kweichow). Note that I am spelling in both pinyin and wades giles where possible. I am more familiar with the pinyin spelling.



Here's some other favorites - from Peiyang



Kiau Chau (Qing Dao) - features strong German design.



One crown size from Guanggong Province (Kwangtung)



A smaller size coin from Jiangnan Province (Kiangnan)



This is a genuine silver Soviet-Chinese coin. These have been slowly disappearing from the market...



There's plenty more to add but I'll hang on for now.

 

Have to add - the Kirin 10 cash also looks odd as well. It could be varieties. In particular the calligraphy looks wrong as well as the number "1"0.

Here's my couple of examples.

 

Impressive group of China. I certainly understand how tough it is to find choice condition Chinese material. I collect cash coins, and when I find them late Imperial and early Republic issues. I just acquired a Yunnan cash of Pu-Yi in quite nice condition and am still working to find info on it as it is not in Hartill. Cool stuff.

 

1904-05 Shang-Tung 10 Cash


Hupoo Govt issue 20 Cash


1920 Honan 50 Cash


1796 China Peking (Beijing) One Cash

 

1911-1916 Rupee struck in Sichuan, which I believe was minted for Tibet.

And no china collection is complete without a Fatman coin. 1914.

 

I just got this on hand. I think it could be a copper trial strike of the Y332 silver Yuan. Exact size and strike. But might also be a copy. Not sure why would copy in copper.

 

Copper copies of silver Chinese coins are all over eBay. Trial strikes do exist, but the market is flooded with novelty/fake/fantasy versions and actual trial strikes are rare.
The inconsistencies around the rim and dentils, as well as overall detail leads me to believe this is one of the former.

Check out some recently sold by one seller: http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odk...opper+dollar.TRS0&_nkw=copper+dollar&_sacat=0

 

Lots of 10 cash overstrikes on Korea 5 fun are believed to have been more recently to fool collectors. This one looks better than those however.
@gxseries check out this one

 

yea either way im going to keep it. I love the dragon coins. Ill encapsulate it.

 

The overstruck 10 cash coin is actually a poor example. This is overstruck over a 1896 5 fun. Note that there are three different varieties of this particular year.



As far as I am concerned, the intended province is supposedly Zhejiang (Chekiang) Province. The reverse however does not match any known examples. This is an example that I own.



Some other examples:







I am certain you can tell the details are quite different. Many years ago these were quite common as millions of 5 fun coins were sold to China as scrap metal. This was supposed to be melted down to be struck as new coins but as you can imagine, some mints must have found overstriking to be a cheaper method. Whether this was officially done by corrupt mint officers or some counterfeiters' basement operation, I don't know. I suspect it could easily be both. However in recent years, many poor examples have been popping up and I suspect this is one of them.

As for the "pattern" - there are too many counterfeits flooding the market. This is one of them. Official pattern coins are just excessively rare - the chances of winning the first price lotto is much higher than buying genuine examples offered online at a bargain price. I would return it immediately.

 

here are a few new ones i got.

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Are the second pair from the bottom Korean? I always found that IMTYPEF one interesting. Read it as "I'm type F" lol

 

both pairs on the bottom should be chinese from the southern song dynasty.

2nd from bottom is shao xing yuan bao
bottom is jian yan tong bao

 

these are the other 2 i bought same time also song dynasty

 

While I'm looking at the new posts, which are fantastic coins, I figure I'll add a three more. I'm really having fun with this group of folks. Thanks to all of you. Cheers...

 

Glad there are some Chinese Coin collectors . The Mongolian Unicode script needs to be rotated 90 degrees clockwise...

Imperial China, Yuan Dynasty: Zhi Zheng (1352) AE 3 wen (Hartill-19.105; Schjöth-1107)

Obv: 至正通寶 Zhi Zheng tong bao
Rev: Mongol word on reverse above for the cyclical characters for the year of casting: ꡚꡞꡋ (Shin) for 壬辰 ren-chen (1352)