Post mint damage or ?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by d.t.menace, Sep 27, 2009.

  1. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Wondering if this could happen during the minting process or is it post mint. Thanks in advance.
     

    Attached Files:

    • 90.jpg
      90.jpg
      File size:
      134.2 KB
      Views:
      124
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,

    It would be helpful to see a picture of the other side of the coin as well as the actual edge of the coin. At this point, the coin has the look of one that has been hammered while between two layers of some unknown but smooth material such as leather. This is sometimes done to fake a broadstrike error.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  4. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Here you go.
     

    Attached Files:

    • 90r.jpg
      90r.jpg
      File size:
      125.2 KB
      Views:
      105
    • 001.JPG
      001.JPG
      File size:
      206.3 KB
      Views:
      99
  5. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic

    I would guess PMD because of the change in color and sheen between the flattened rims and the rest of the coin.
     
  6. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,

    It appears to have been tampered with in some way. It was not struck with a faulty collar. I can't pin down how it was damaged as there are more ways to mess a coin up than there are people who damage coins:)

    The edge does not have the evidence needed to call this a broadstrike error. It therefore has to be damaged.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  7. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Thanks Bill. I didn't see any file or any other tool marks and the reverse rim didn't show any damage at all. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't something in the minting process that i was overlooking.
     
  8. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,

    I've fooled with this in the past:) If you take a cent and stick it between two pieces of heavy leather, obverse side up (Belting Leather works well), and you whack the coin "sandwich" with a heavy hammer, the obverse spreads a little and the reverse gets pushed down into the bottom piece of leather. It may take more than one whack with a hammer but the coin eventually looks like the one up above.

    One of the ways that I've come up with in general to prove post mint damage on some coins has to do with various ways of duplicating them.

    If there is no function at the Mint that can cause a certain look and I can duplicate the "look" with a hammer , a tool, a chemical or a combination thereof, I can pretty much rule out an error and rule in a man made coinage catastrophe:)

    Have Fun,
    Bill
     
  9. jcuve

    jcuve Lincoln variety fanatic


    Bill, I like your way of thinking I feel it is good advice for new variety/error collectors: understand the mechanics of the minting process and determine if an observed phenomena with a coin is feasible, if not, work out other plausible alternatives to explain the phenomena.
     
  10. just coins

    just coins New Member

    Post mint damage it's obvious.

    JC
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page