post an ugly coin

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mbbiker, Dec 9, 2002.

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  1. mbbiker

    mbbiker New Member

    I thought the sac's were ugly before, this is just horrible!!





























































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    mbbiker, Dec 9, 2002
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  3. Jess

    Jess Senior Member

    Why am I confused with this post? Did I miss something?
     
    Jess, Dec 9, 2002
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  4. Reid Goldsborough

    Reid Goldsborough New Member

    You think? I'm not a big fan of colored coins, but this one seems nice enough. I like the gradation of pastels in the background. My eight-year-old daughter would like this. Seriously. Do you remember where you saw this pic?
     
    Reid Goldsborough, Dec 9, 2002
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  5. mbbiker

    mbbiker New Member

    mbbiker, Dec 9, 2002
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  6. looric

    looric New Member

    A 1994P B.U. Jefferson.

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    B.U. = BUTT UGLY.

    I got this from circulation last month. I keep it in a 2x2 now.
     
    looric, Dec 9, 2002
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  7. mbbiker

    mbbiker New Member

    to bad it's all beat up looks FS to me :wink:
     
    mbbiker, Dec 9, 2002
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  8. Hedderick

    Hedderick New Member

    how about this one

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    Hedderick, Dec 9, 2002
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  9. Stujoe

    Stujoe New Member

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    Stujoe, Dec 9, 2002
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  10. Bill Henderson

    Bill Henderson New Member

    Looks like we have two different conversations going here. On one side we have the people with coins that were abused and are ugly because of it. On the other we have coins that were designed ugly. I guess you could put the colored dollar in both categories. :lol:
     
    Bill Henderson, Dec 10, 2002
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Oh you can keep the colored coins - not my thing. But that cent that Stujoe used for shotgun practice - now that's a beaut !!

    As for the Jeff - just never did care for coins after they had been through the garbage disposal - picky I guess :wink:
     
    GDJMSP, Dec 10, 2002
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  12. Stujoe

    Stujoe New Member

    Anohter subscriber to the "Shotgun Theory" That is my personal favorite theory too. :)

    I found that beauty in change and I am positive it has a story to tell but I am not sure what more I can do to it in order to get it to start blabbing. :)
     
    Stujoe, Dec 10, 2002
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Start blabbing ??? C'mon Stujoe - it's screaming at you already. That coin was tossed in the air and blasted - aint no doubt about it. The amazing thing is that it was ever found again. I'd wager it was not found by the shooter.

    How do I know it was tossed ? Well for the pattern of the shot to be tight enough to actually blast a chunk out of the coin like that - it had to be shot at close range. And if a shooter were to have placed the coin stationary and then shot it - he would have been hit by the richochets and not many shooters are that foolish.

    If you wish to know even more - just look at the size of the pellet marks. I'd have to guess about #7 shot was used - typical for a bird hunter, probably quail or dove. You can verify this easily enough - stop by a gun shop some day with the coin. They'll have bags of shot there in various sizes. Just place one of the pellets into that mark there between the E in ONE & the C in CENT - you'll have your confirmation.
     
    GDJMSP, Dec 10, 2002
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  14. looric

    looric New Member

    That would be a good theory except that the shooter would have had to retreive the coin and shoot at it again for both sides to have suffered impact events. If it were retreived and then shot again I doubt the shooter then lost it.

    Notice also the lack of deformation on either side of the coin around the impact sites.

    This coin was probably a high school science lab experiment of this sort:
    http://www.woodrow.org/teachers/chemistry/institutes/1986/exp6.html
     
    looric, Dec 11, 2002
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  15. Stujoe

    Stujoe New Member

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  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Nope - I aint buyin it. I understand the point about both sides being marked - so it has been shot twice - most likely one shot right after the other. Again the pattern of the shot on each side tells the tale. One pattern is very close - the other is more spread out which would indicate and increased distance for the second shot. And there is deformation at some marks and not at others. This can be explained easily enough. The shot is lead - much softer than the copper clad zinc. So if the coin was not hit squarely by all the shot - which it would not have been given the nature of a shot pattern - some parts may deform and others not.

    Having actually shot at coins before - I can testify to similar markings. And if that coin had been placed in an acid solution - the markings would not look like that.
     
    GDJMSP, Dec 11, 2002
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  17. laz

    laz New Member

    Going by the photo only,the marks do not look "dented" so pellet contact marks can be ruled out. To me,the marks look burnt into the coin.The cut outs at the rim look different too.I can't really see the edges but one things for sure...it is "BUTT UGLY" I was going to post a pic,but I decided to give up,you win. ~ Jim
     
    laz, Dec 12, 2002
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  18. mbbiker

    mbbiker New Member

    :guns:
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    mbbiker, Dec 14, 2002
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  19. Jess

    Jess Senior Member

    Coin is not B.U. but funny, BU as defined earlier

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    Jess, Jan 27, 2003
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  20. mbbiker

    mbbiker New Member

    Jess, picture isn't working for me all i get is a red X
     
    mbbiker, Jan 27, 2003
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  21. coppercoins

    coppercoins certifiably unstable

    The most likely actual story for this poor cent is that it suffered from gas bubbles in the copper plating which came open with circulation. The exposed zinc core combined with the oxygen and moisture in the air (or ground) to form zinc-oxide, which is a white, powdery substance. Given that the ZnO changes form from metal to powder, it simply fell out of the openings in the copper.

    I have seen many examples of such coins, rotted out from the inside, but have not seen one so severely damaged to date. Interesting piece, but not a shotgun victim. You shoot a coin in the air and it's going to come back down in the next county looking like it was shot. Bent, scraped, holed, and severely mis-shapen. A person would have had to have shot that at less than five or ten feet to get a spread like that on a coin, which likely would have blown it completely apart.
     
    coppercoins, Jan 28, 2003
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