Possible 1834 "Repunched Reverse Letters" Capped Bust Quarter??? Opinions...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by iGradeMS70, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Just looking for a few opinions. This coin seems to exhibit all of the necessary to be the FS-25-1834-901 (As listed by the Cherrypickers Guide) but I would just like to be sure. It is tough to make out the top of the doubled "A" in "AMERICA" due to the poor quality photo, so I zoomed in a bit (Though that doesn't look to have helped much). It lists this as a "rare variety" and that there is "Too little information available to value this variety". So, exactly how scarceisthis variety? I understand that this variety is fairly common for the previous year (1833), but I cannot find record of any others for 1834. Could anyone here on CT begin to value the coin? Any information supplied is greatly appreciated. :)

    Thanks in Advance,
    Brian


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  3. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    It is a B-1 R-1 coin. I don't think it is the cherry picker variety simply because I see no evidence of the A to the left of the A in America. Just my humble opinion.
     
  4. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Yeah... After further research, that's basically what I've concluded as well. I thought I saw evidence of what MAY be the base of a repunched "A" but I guess I'm just seeing things... Darn! Really thought I found something good. Guess I've just gotta keep lookin', and brush-up and on Capped Bust Quarters! :) Thanks for the help, Mark.


    -Brian
     
  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    This reverse die was used for 1833 B-2 and 1834 B-1. On the 1833 B-2 there are traces of the recutting visible. On an early 1834 B-1 they may still be visible but once the recutting fades it is still the same die variety and is still an R-1. The real key to identifying this die is not the recutting on the AM, but the vertical stripes on the shield. This is the ONLY die in the bust quarter series where the vertical stripes are made of two lines instead of three.
     
  6. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    You tell me...
    :)


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  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I think what conder is saying is all 1834's B-1 are this variety. Some you see with the recutting(early die state) some you don't(latter die states). As it is I think I still see the foot of the A on your coin now. Here is a snap shot of a high grade coin from heritage.
     

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  8. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Ohh, ok. I understand. I believe I see a foot of a doubled "A" as well, but without the tip-top of the "A" visibley doubled, we cannot fully confirm that it's this "rare variety", correct? :scratch: ... As you may have noticed, I don't dabble much in Capped Bust Quarters. Lol! :goofer:

    -Brian
     
  9. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Bought a book and collected a few. I don't think I own any bust quarters any more. I think in the case of this variety the early die states would bring a premium - just not sure how much. Yours is a latter die state with less of the A and F(yes I just noticed it between the OF) showing. In my opinion only it is not of the rarer die state(using die state cause they are all the same variety B-1). It is still a very cool coin. Next time I go to the local shop I will check out their 1834's I know they have a couple.
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Basically the Cherry Pickers is calling an early die state of a common die variety a "rare variety". It isn't a separate variety, and even if rare it is only valuable if you can find someone collecting bust quarters by variety and die state.
     
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