I bid on this on eBay but didn't win it. I just stumbled across it and thought it was strange. Has anyone seen one before? What do you think of it? Are they worth anything? http://www.ebay.com/itm/200803376749?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649
Our resident German expert will chime in, but I have to think this is not a 30 mark piece, but rather 30 pfennig. It probably was more of a donation receipt than an actual "monetary" instrument. Even the ones made during the hyperinflation of 1923 were more for fundraising purposes than actual circulation.
It's interesting to see how many of them are out there. One of the unusual things with this one was the 1927 date. Most of the notgeld coins I've seen are from the early 20s, not that late.
that coin is a 30 pfenning and was a pretty good buy at that price. I have a collection of about 30 of these and had I seen this one I would have bid. Richard
They were making them right up into WWII, I have seen some commemorating the fall of Sevastopol etc. By then they were more commemorative and less fundraising - and sold at a good premium.
I thought it might have been worth more but I just didn't know and didn't have time to do research, so I kept my bid low. I didn't want to bid high and find out it was some tourist piece or something like that. I was hoping it might slip through but someone sniped me at the last second as usual. I think I bid about $4.
Don't see "1927" there. These coins are from 1921. Here is a similar piece: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Meissen-Porzellan-Notgeld-30-Pfennig-Meissen-/400295639771 Christian
Yes, the 1 on the left is a little different from the 1 on the right. Also, on a perfectly balanced design, the latter would not be that close to the 2, I think. Ah well, it's notgeld. Christian
I never got into the Porcelain notgeld. It didn't really circulate as was sold more as a for collectors only deal. Same as with a lot of the paper notgeld. I just collect the metal coins and just the municipal issues. I have over 2,000 different from over 600 different cities. One person I know who does collect the porcelain is the book dealer John Burns.
It is also good to point out that not all porcelain notgeld was made by meissen and not all meissen was notgeld. I have pieces by meissen from the same time period that were comm. Medals and others that were lottery tickets. Richard
Sure, there were about a dozen "porcelain coin" manufacturers in Germany at that time, but Meissen made about 80 percent of the pieces. The (brownish) state of Saxony issues, by the way, did circulate to some extent. They were initially made/issued in 1920, to test the acceptance so to say. As the results were satisfactory, many more were made in 1921. It was mostly the (hyper-)inflation that made those pieces useless. Many other porcelain "coins", however, were indeed mostly souvenirs ... Christian
