Please, help to determinate middle age coin

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  1. Vit

    Vit New Member

    Country, year?
     

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  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Greetings Vit,

    I think it's an English hammered penny from the 15th centaury. There will be others chime in with more accurate information momentarily, trust me ;)

    Bone
     
  4. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Always Right

    Most definatively not from any of the British Isles, think continental, and quite possibly France. I suggest this from the style of the tressure around the central device on the obverse of the piece, which is gothic in appearance and was used on French coins of that era.
     
  5. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Is there a cross and a portrait there?

    B
     
  6. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    possibly Netherlands.
    Doug,if you're around,didn't we ID a Dutch coin a while back with a VERY similar pattern?
    Remember I found a website with pics and you nailed the exact coin from the link...I can't seem to find the post but this coin looks familiar.It was a silver variation of something like a goldengugen (sp.?)???
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'm lookin, I'm lookin - where's that dang Scotsman when ya need him :rolleyes:
     
  8. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

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  10. Ian

    Ian Coin Collector

    French mediaeval coinage is difficult enough. It is nigh on impossible to follow these German lineages without making it a lifes work. :)

    I knew it wasn't French. I also knew it wasn't the low countries. I suspected one of the minor German states, but short of searching through Die Saurmasche I had no idea which one.

    Count Gerhard das Marck (died 1461) it is, and a pretty rare coin it be at that.

    Ian
     
  11. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    hehe...ur welcome.The site is a treasure trove but I got tired of looking after a while,good job.I knew the trilobe design was familiar,just didn't realize how widespread it was.
    Those darn German States again Ian..LOL
     
  12. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    He may be stalled at Hadrian's Wall, refusing to pay the newly imposed English toll. :hammer:
     
  13. Ian

    Ian Coin Collector

    The site is indeed a treasure trove. The navigation of it takes a bit of acclimatisation though. Mind you, the subject matter is vast and understanding it all is made exceedingly complex by marriages seeing territory change to different families in different countries.

    As an aside...an interesting (and cheap) book which provides extremely useful information on European heraldry is `Lines of Succession' by Jiri Louda and Michael MacLagan (Barnes and Noble). It was first published in 1999 and has been re printed a few times since. For a small book, it doesn't quite extend to covering the lineage of every minor state/ principality, but it is still a very useful addition to the library of anyone interested in european history / coinage. I got a copy as a gift two or three years back but would have willingly spent the noted price of $7.98 a few times over for it.

    Ian
     
  14. Ian

    Ian Coin Collector

    Nah...just stuck. :smile

    Ian
     
  15. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    I found the evidence.Ian stuck at the wall,unable to find a way over.
     

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