Please Help - I'm Lost in Finding ANY Info on this Medallion!

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by mit26chell, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. mit26chell

    mit26chell New Member

    Hi all,
    Purchased this recently. There is no date on it, and all I really know is that it's .900 silver and weighs 9.4 dwts / .47 ASW. The Coin says 'Dombaumeister' and 'Anton Pilgram' near the edge of the coin going around the front and 'St Stephensdom Zu Wein' on the back.

    I've looked all over and can't seem to find any info on this particular coin. I'd mainly like to know the date it was minted / any history to it / and if $12.05 including shipping was a good price.

    Hopefully someone here has some knowledge about its origins / date. I'm sure you will ;)

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  3. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Well, it's german. And the babblefish translation is:
    Cathedral architect Anton Pilgram /
    St Stephensdom to wine
    So from a quick wikipedia check (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Pilgram):
    Anton Pilgram (also Anton Pilchramb) (around 1460, Brno (?) – 1516, Vienna) was a late medieval Austrian (German) architect and sculptor active in the area of today's Czech Republic, Austria and western Germany. Pilgram is known as the sculptor of the portal of Old City Hall in Brno and craftsman of the pulpit in St. Stephen's Cathedral, Vienna. He spent a major part of his life in Brno, Moravia.
     
  4. mit26chell

    mit26chell New Member

    Yeah I guess I was hoping there'd be some info on the actual coin.. when it was minted, etc.

    What's the difference between a medal and a coin - just the fact that a coin is money with a governments certification, backing and a monetary denomination?

    Is it generally harder to find information on medals?
     
  5. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    I would call that a bullion round, not a medal. Bullion rounds that are privately minted are usually just worth their melt value, and there are loads of different ones, many without the refiner on it. Not sure how you'd find out when it was minted, or if it even matters. Then again, I don't know anything about German currencies, maybe it's a commemorative, I have no idea really. Any lettering on the edge?
    It doesn't really read like a bullion round, either though. Doesn't say the weight or fineness. I suppose that was a long way of saying I know nothing about it.
     
  6. mit26chell

    mit26chell New Member

    hahaha. Yes, I checked for edge lettering and the only thing it says is .900. It's a quite beautiful round in person - definitely different from many other rounds I've seen, mainly because no where does it say, 'One Ounce Fine Silver' or 'So and So Mint' etc. Also, the mold for it seems different, very thin, pretty highly raised edges, bunch of different textures of the medal, etc - but they sure can do a lot of cool things / looks / textures with the silver these days, so it looking different than usual means nothing.

    Oh well, thanks for your help. Was JW as the girl I bought it from called it a medal, and it kind of reminded me of all those commemorative medals they do for past presidents... although most of those I see are plated and cheap.

    Paid several bucks under spot, so that's awesome. Also bought an uncirculated Denmark 5 Kroner coin from 1964 commemorating the wedding of, I'm assuming, the royalty there with her head shot on back and some other dude's on the front. I paid $10.49 for that one, and its 0.574 ASW :thumb:

    I loooove paying way under spot. Damn, thinking about it - that is way under spot - $6! That's my best yet, as I don't know the scoop on how to find stuff for under the spot price.
     
  7. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you got a good deal. Btw, in general, a medal has medallic orientation (if you hold the piece at 12:00 & 6:00 when you spin it, the front and back will both face "up" in the same direction). Coins are usually rotated 180 degrees between the front and back.

    The Danish coin is a commemorative for the princesses wedding (and shows her father on the obverse, if I remember correctly).
     
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