Pine Tree Shilling

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  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Here is one I recently picked up. It's a copy of the real thing but this copy is not a modern copy, it's 90 years old. The paperwork is dated 1930. It's from The Bourne Historical Society (BHS). It's the Tercentenary with all original packaging and paperwork. I did the best I could with the photos to show it all. Hope you like it as much as I do.

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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Ohh that's a cool Vintage Novelty ! I know a story, forget it . Nice !
     
  4. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    That is great. A bit of regional history, a novel story and a nice coin all wrapped up in a box.
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    The intact original packaging (and no-doubt-rare surviving paperwork) really makes that one collectible in its own right. Very cool piece of exonumia there.

    Friend o’ mine (he’s a big-britches dealer now) recently bought this one. The real deal. PCGS VF30.

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  6. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    I believe the said Judge Sewall was also one of the Salem witch trial judges. Neat item!
     
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  7. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Fascinating! That's the correct word.

    Yes it is a collectible in its own right.
     
  9. MeowtheKitty

    MeowtheKitty Well-Known Member

    That is neato!
     
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  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    A friend got this one out of a house clean out a few years ago. I bought and sold it B39A1C8C-897E-4932-A879-BC587962BDDD.jpeg C02D54B6-8D99-4D07-893A-CD27CE00F8C5.jpeg
     
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

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  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Agreed. The hole why it’s not part of my own collection
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Without that hole it would be in my collection. It's in great shape otherwise.
     
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  14. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Same. Original skin too. I flipped it and made a little
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Good for you! It is a nice one for wear.
     
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  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    There is a whole series of these copies that came out in the 1930s. I was awarded a set of them, without the papers and box, many years ago for speaking at a New England coin club. I’ll have to see if I can find some pictures.

    I also have an example of the copy, paper and box shown in the OP.
     
  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Please post if you find them. Sounds interesting.
     
  18. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Hi @Collecting Nut!

    You are in luck. I found them! There was a study about these pieces by a well-known New England numismatist, Shepard Pond. He was before my time, although I did meet his daughter a few times.

    Okay, here goes.

    The John Hull piece that was in the OP. This one has an odd polished finish which makes hard to photograph.

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    Here is one called "Boston Common." It too has a bright finish, which looks like it's chromium plated. Boston originally had three hills which gave the name to "Tremont Street." Soil from the hills was carted over to the the swamp to make Boston's Back Bay area. The token maker is the Robbins Co. of Attleboro, Massachusetts.

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    This token celebrates Worcester, Massachusetts. The maker is listed as Whitehead and Hoag Co. Shepard Pond listed it as his variety #26.

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    This is my favorite among the group, "Governor Winthrop Meets Chief Chickatabot." This is listed as Pond #28. The maker is the Robbins Co. of Attleboro, Massachusetts.

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    This one is a straight reproduction of a large planchet Pine Tree Shilling. It is listed in Sidney Noe's book on Massachusetts silver as "Frabrication PS."

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    For those who are not familiar with the Massachusetts Pine Tree Shillings, here is a real one, listed in Noe's book as variety #1.

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  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Thank you for posting these. Very interesting but now I need to find the others. Lol I'm just glad I got this one. The coin with the packing makes it a great collectible to me.
     
  20. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Yes, the box and papers do add a lot to it. I have seen a couple of the box, paper and token sets offered at shows in New England, but I have never seen the others offered with more than the token. I bought my box and token set at a local club auction many years ago.
     
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  21. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Thanks for the info I haven’t seen these restrikes before. I’ve seen a lot of copies too
     
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