Philippines - Double Struck? Or Not?

Hi all,
This is an interesting coin. Supposedly a 50 Sentimo Coin Double Struck With another type of Philippine Die. But I am not believing it... Can anyone guess why not?

 

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Do not know. But does not look right.
Probably because the completely different dates 1985 and 1967

 

Why is Phillippines spelled two different ways?

 

That to

 

You almost have the answer.

 

I'm probably way out in the woods on this, but did we not strike coins here for the Phillipine's and then they took over at a later date? I'm not sure how a 1967 die could find it's way in to a 1985 striking process. Unless this was an employee contrived coin?

 

Yah: A earlier die on a later coin

 

So, do I have the correct answer yet?!

 

You guys got it! Unless the 1985 coin traveled back in time to be struck in 1967, I don't see how it could occur other than it being assisted!

 

Yah!!!!!!!!

 

I believe you may be right on there. In 1967 The US minted coins for the Philippines. They stopped in 1976. So there is no way that I know of these 2 dates could be on this coin.

 

This is actually very interesting in that how did someone acquire a die from 1967, supposedly in U.S. possession and strike a coin on a die in Phillipine possession? Unless this is counterfeit? Did the U.S. destroy all their dies or turn them over to the Phillipine government?

 

This is what I am wondering myself. Not sure what they did with them.

 

No idea, just spit balling:
The extra piece could have been part of a coin, and it was manufactured and not struck. Since the rim is on the inside and not on the outside where it would be, even with this unconventional shape.

 

Interesting right?
I purchased this coin from a person in the Philippines. $15.00.. Just wanted to add it to my curiosity coins album.

 

Every coin from PI I’ve seen it is spelled Pilip, not pilap.

 

Another interesting observation. I have quite a few coins from the Philippines. I haven't looked through them all yet, But so sar I see it spelled 2 ways.

On US minted coins it is spelled "Filipinas"

And in 1979, three years after the US stopped minting them, it is spelled "Pilipinas"

So far I haven't found any that spell it "Pilapinas".

Edit: The term "Pilapinas" is used by some in the Philippines. It's kinda a joke name for their country referring to how long people have to wait in lines in the Philippines. Apparently there are long lines everywhere you go...especially in the banks.

 

The second strike was from a fantasy/counterfeit die. Many such double strikes pop on eBay with regularity.

 

Yes, there have been these counterfeit dies around
for decades - the 'overstrikes', whether by an earlier
die, or a diff. denomination, are from false, or, as Mike
said, fantasy dies.

 

Just as I suspected.. Thank you sir.

Crazy stuff. And thanks for your reply also!