Perfect Uncirculated Wheatie.

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  1. MattJW

    MattJW 7 Iron Surgeon

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  3. zekeguzz

    zekeguzz lmc freak

    I don't know anything about SGS. The picture of the slabbed cent isn't good enough to tell if it is graded correct or not. Need to see the obverse too. Put in a minimal bid if you can now.
     
  4. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    SGS(Star Grading Service) is the biggest joke of all the TPGs. More than likely it grades 63. If you do a search on this site, you will see what I am talking about.;)
     
  5. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    This is correct. These guys don't grade...they just put any luster containing coin in a slab and mark it MS70. Their sales prices reflect that. Stay away from them.
     
  6. byrd740

    byrd740 Numismatist

    Actually, I will admit I was wrong on a comment I made. SGS does accept submissions, but I wouldn't dream of doing it.;) http://www.stargrading.org/
     
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

  8. coins123

    coins123 Member

    I thought ACG(accugrade) was the biggest joke?
     
  9. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Accugrade was just the beginning of the "guy in his garage" grading companies. It's a lot worse these days.
     
  10. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I have read in the past that people here have tried ton contact them to submit a coin only to be told that they are too busy to accept submissions at this time. I have never heard of anyone submitting to them successfully.
     
  11. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    ABON/Ebay is in cahoots with SGS.
     
  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Actually, I believe that they are one and the same.
     
  13. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    ebay & abon , yes but not SGS. Don;t know for certain though
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Search around this board - it has been posted on here somewhere that they are one and the same. Somebody did some searching can't remember how they found it, but I do think they are one and the same.
     
  15. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    SGS and Abon are owned by the same people.

    Occasionally they may slip up and actually grade something correctly but I sure wouldn't buy an SGS coin without holding it in my hand.

    Abon/SGS are a disgrace to coin dealers everywhere IMHO.

    I just checked the NGC population on 35-D red. 178 have been graded as MS67RD. None higher. Anyone have PCGS stats?
    I think that says it all. Might be a 63 and of course the pics aren't that great. Wonder why that is?
     
  16. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    ahhhhh ok thanks for the info. I knew somebody was in cahoots with somebody. LOL
     
  17. Dollar1948

    Dollar1948 New Member

    I wouldnt trust the grades, but to look at the coins Im not sure the asking buy it now proces are that far out of wack.
    If I ever got one slabbed like that id break it open for sure
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    If the color and luster are like the photo in hand, I would say it has been altered and recolored. IMO. Obviously not close to a 70.

    Jim
     
  19. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    If I remember correctly, accugrade was the very first slabber and inventor of the slab.

    SGS is poison, no doubt.
     
  20. pennywise

    pennywise Collector of dust

    PCGS page-[SIZE=-1]Notes:
    The finest Red example graded by PCGS is a single MS-68RD.[/SIZE]
     
  21. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Thanks Pennywise I think that seals the deal. Neither PCGS nor NGC has slabbed one as 69 let alone 70.

    Food for thought. SGS should start a population report. I may have to start a thread about that!
     
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