Penny Experts, your thinking caps on, please...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by torontokuba, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    What could have happened to the dark cent, wrong planchet, fire damage, etc.?

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    Dark cent 19.5 - 20 mm, 2.49/2.50 g, obverse: convex, reverse: concave
    Regular cent 19 mm, 2.48/2.49 g
     
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  3. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Been in the ground
     
  4. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    It's been exposed to heat.
     
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  5. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Environmentally damaged.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm thinking the same.
     
  7. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Does just being in the ground cause or explain this type of warp (convex/concave)?
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Post mint/environmental damage.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    No it would not, but spooning would.
     
  10. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    Please explain, I'm sure you mean something coin related.;)

    I believe heat/fire could have caused the entire look.
     
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  11. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    The OP has stated that the coin is larger in diameter than normal, and concave. This is heat damage.
     
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  12. torontokuba

    torontokuba Thread Crapper & Hijacker, TP please.

    ...also explains the coating melting away, minor traces left near rim. The nice penny shows that the cheap thin layer wears off with just circulation, you can see through the plating.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Yeah, maybe. But I've seen a lot of heated coins and never saw one go concave because of it. Expand a bit ? Yes, but only temporarily. As soon as they cool they shrink back to normal.

    Spooning however will cause a coin to become concave, every time. If you don't know spooning is when you continually tap on the edge of a coin with a spoon. This gentle but continuous tapping causes the edge of the coin to expand and get larger and larger over time. It also bends the edge in a single direction eventually making the coin very concave. Eventually to the point where the edge is so wide, bent over itself and putting inner portions of the coin on the edge and the center so concave that the center can be drilled out and the coin worn as a ring.
     
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