Penny Design Change

personally, i think that the penny SERIOUSLY needs a design change. Lincoln has been on the coin for almost 100 YEARS. This is crazy!

although lincoln was a great president, we need a new design!!!!

 

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I believe that the Lincoln Bicentennial Commission was looking into recommending that for 2009 but I can't find a source right now. But, of course, it would be a Lincoln Design (almost certainly.)

And, yes, I think we are due for a change.

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Stujoe

 

I think they all need a total tear down, and new designs from scratch. Bye bye Mr Jefferson, you won't be missed...

 

Yes the Lincoln will get a face lift in 2009, with a circulating commemorative simular to the state quarter program. No designs have been released to date.

 

Not that I would miss the cent coin, but until our leaders can figure out a better way of rounding numbers I believe we will stuck with it. Coin World published an article on the bicentenial cent redesign a few months ago. Maybe someone can find that article and provide a link here in the forum.

 

I'm for keeping Lincoln, Jefferson, Washington and seeing more of Ben Franklin. If anything I would like to see more early American leaders like the brother Adams on our coins. It seems to me that American history is being taken out of the schools and early American History is being taken out of our holidays. We need to keep some sort of National identity and even if one doesn't like pictures of the past leaders, those leaders should be remember for their ideals more then for the man. As for the walking liberty type of coins, lets put those type of images on the reverse side. I really don't need to see memorials and like I said before, I would like to see the idea of freedom,liberty etc. on the coins.

 

I received this communication directly from the Lincoln Bicentenial commission..

The Commission has endorsed the idea of redesigning the penny for the
bicentennial and is working with the Mint to make this happen. The
proposed redesign will keep the obverse profile in place, but the
reverse side will be changed to reflect different stages/events in
Lincoln's life. We anticipate a series of 3-4 pennies, each of which
would feature a different image.

Sincerely,

Michael F. Bishop
Executive Director

Since Mr. bishop is the Director, I would take his comments seriously

 

my thanks go out to you and mr. bishop

 

You are welcome sir. That is why I am here. Just to help out in any way that I am able.

 

If they're going to continue to honor Massa Abe on the penny, maybe they'll get honest and make the reverse of one a rendering of a betrayed former slave singing "Massa Abe Done Tuk Them Chains Offa Me". That song was a sardonic private joke among the former slaves used and abandoned by the radical republicans who ravaged the South during what they deceitfully called "Reconstruction".

Quibbling little changes of imagery on fiat coinage should really get boos from the numismatic community. Unfortunately, the large dealers and the coin clubs breathlessly report the newest additions to the list of Billion+ issues in hopes of diverting new collectors from actually pursuing the hobby.

One can only wonder why. After all, this hobby has traditionally been a study of history as much as an acquisitive pastime. As that changes, the status of the hobby dwindles and the numismatic community becomes stratified while investors step in and take every single one of the valuable examples of coinage out of the market by outpaying collectors.

I can see this modern issue hucksterism destroying the hobby in the decades to come. Sports card collectors have more passion for history these days than do the collectors of coins.
That is a seriously sad commentary on what's happening to a great hobby.

 

Don't worry as long as GD and i are around, it won't fail completely, as both of us seem lost in the midsts of the 16th to 18th centuries...

Although i have been known to drift back to the 12th century stuff at times.

 

Hey Silvester,

I would love to see some more ancient coins posted here in the forum. I keep telling myself that I am going to learn about these little coins one day.

 

Well i can cover some hammered stuff, and some early milled coins...

but with regards to ancients, i'm like you... i'd quite like a few one day. Some Athenian owls (or whatever they are called). I've been reading far too many posts on RCC and now i want one!

 

The only ancient coin I personally have ever owned was a widow's mite. We bought a few to pass out to people at the church. Neat little coin. I have seen dealers selling ancients around the country as we do shows, but never took the time to learn anything about them. I have read the post in the euro section about hammered coins, but haven't learned much yet. I guess I will have to buckle down and pick up a book or two on the subject.

 

Here's a bit more indepth info on that Stephen coin...

http://www.coinpeople.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24287#24287

but it's not spectacular, it was something i hatched up from memory and thus is not as good as it could be.

Sometime in May, i'll be hitting the libraries, and i'll be trying to come up with a good essay! A comparison of William I's coinage to those of the preceeding reigns, including AEthelred II (978-1016), Canute (1016-1035) (more properly spelt Cnut but i want to avoid any misspellings ), Edward The Confessor (1042-1066) and Harold II (1066). I did have some of this material in a previous history essay dealing with the Question of 'whether the Norman Conquest of 1066 was a period of continuity or change?'

(Don't have any images of these coins myself but i think i know where i can borrow some)

Then i might redevelop that Stephen (1135-1154) one into more detail, and see how far i can crack down to the nitty gritty.

If i can weave all that lot together (if i ever get the time that is!) then all i have to do is fill in the gaps between William I (1066-1087) and Stephen and i could have a nice chapter for a book!

If only i could suss out the stuff between Cnut and Edward The Confessor.

That's before i get started on my real area of speciality.

Syl.

 

you'll have to scroll to the top of the page on the previous link...

 

That is some cool reading. I don't get over to that site much anymore. Between living on the road and managing three offices now. What books would you recommend reading? Something to give an overview of the ancient coinage. Be sure to post any good ancient links up in the information and helpful links also.

 

For the British stuff dated 1066 and later, i strongly recommend

'R. Lobel, CoinCraft's Standard Catalogue of English and UK Coins 2000 (London, 1999)'

Mr Lobel is actually an American by birth.

The price guide is a bit off, but the info in it is truely worth it! I know some US collectors have a copy, i think you could get it in the States.

But it's a fascinating read, includes hammered, milled, gold, silver, copper, bronze, tin. Patterns, touchpieces, a brief section on jetons and coin weights, also mintage figures for most coins date after 1816, and some limited biographical details for the people that designed the coins, E.g Benedetto Pistrucci (who designed St Geo and the Dragon) and William Wyon of Una and the Lion fame (who had an apprentice by the name of Mr T Morgan).

I believe they do a similar catalogue for Scottish and Irish coins. (plus Jersey, Guernsey and Lundy).

 

Amazon.com has the book. I will order a copy today.