PCGS....read this about slabbing

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  1. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

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  3. Andrew67

    Andrew67 Clueless

    Good article...
     
  4. Daggarjon

    Daggarjon Supporter**

    bottom line. quit dipping coins - it just kills them.

    good article :)
     
  5. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    A natural look makes sense, since toning can be "faked" or "accelerated".
     
  6. merlin1066

    merlin1066 Senior Member

    Very informative little article, Thanks Jack! :thumb:
     
  7. grizz

    grizz numismatist

    Pcgs..............................

    ........good article. it's nice to be able to verify the slab with a certified number BUT why not a photo verification (unless i missed something) like a couple of other tpgs are doing?
     
  8. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

  9. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    What do they mean by "haze" exactly?
     
  10. Harryj

    Harryj Supporter**

    Good question, I was wondering that also.
     
  11. Andrew67

    Andrew67 Clueless

    My best guess would be that cloudy look you get on a coin, almost like a milky sheen over the coin. I have some 80's proof sets that this has happend to but am not sure if this is what they are referring to.
     
  12. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    Hmmmm... I dunno.

    It's already been established that (in some cases at least) this is residue left by improper cleaning of the planchets(?) at the mint. They wouldn't bag a coin that came straight out of (or was still in) its original proof packaging, would they?

    I would think that the only way to get rid of this milkyness would be a dip? Sounds counter productive to me... lol
     
  13. Andrew67

    Andrew67 Clueless

    I don't know, all I can do is report what I have experienced, which isn't much. Maybe someone with alot more will chime in.

    And yes it does sound counter productive. Another solution would be to replace the set.
     
  14. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good

    But then shady ebay vendors wouldn't be able to pass off circulated coins as MS!! That would be such a tragedy.
     
  15. weryon

    weryon World traveler - In Thailand

    So true , I buy some coins from a dude that dips 90% of his coins and will give a grade like UNC MS62 to a au58 ,... but he still manages to sells alot of coins , between his two accounts over 3000 coins a month which most are dipped and doctored .. but every now and then I will find a deal that has been missed in his coins.
     
  16. PersianGuy

    PersianGuy my.will.is.good

    Your damn right he does, I can imagine the number of people who still don't realize they have dipped coins is quite high. Hell I just bought one (although being a newbie I shouldn't be too harshly judged lol) for $799. which the seller graded at MS63.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180336235597

    I am trying to get my money back currently. We'll see how that goes.

    :mad:
     
  17. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Never go on a seller's description with luster etc. With that high dollar value, I wouldn't even buy the thing online, unless I knew the dealer etc.

    Man I am sorry you had to learn that lesson so expensively.:(
     
  18. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Interesting article. However, I have no slabbed coins from anyone. And I ever had were cracked open. Never liked PCGS due to dealers are always trying to charge more if in a PCGS slab. They are easier to open that NGC though.
     
  19. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    See, I'm the exact opposite under certain conditions...

    I make a point to pay through PayPal using a credit card. Double protection for double the fun! Despite the agrivation and hair pulling, I never need worry about never getting my money back if a deal goes south or I want to return an item.

    I don't ever consider "no return" policies valid either... because they're not. Disagree with me? Take it up with my credit card company and their lawyers.

    It's a buyers market out there and it's the sellers that really need most of the protection.
     
  20. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    I can't imagine paying $799 for any morgan without having the coin in hand, or at least getting it from a trusted dealer who was looking for a particular coin just for me.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Read this thread - Click Here

    And this thread about originality - HERE
     
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