PCGS Environmental Damage

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jester3681, Sep 8, 2013.

  1. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    You know how sometimes there are questions you know the answers to, but you ask anyways? I have two coins (well, more than two, but for the sake of this discussion...). The first is a 1973 France 10 Franc Hercules coin, the second is a 1964 Canada S$1 "No Dot." Both were purchased in original mint packaging, both have several dark spots. The 10 Franc is the worst, since the majority of the spotting is right in the center of the coin. The dollar has one small spot on either side, on the very edge of the field. Any thoughts on whether these would be dinged as environmental damage or if they would be considered localized toning? :) In both cases, I think there were pinholes in the mint package at or around the discoloration.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Would have to see pics to make an opinion.

    That said, the TPGs have been known to bag coins that were submitted in original mint packaging.
     
  4. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    Unfortunately, both have been removed and put in flips at this point.
     
  5. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

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    DSC06703.JPG Quick pics of both coins for the sake of conversation. Sorry about the reflections, particularly on the 10 Franc - didn't feel like dragging out the whole setup.
     
  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Send for conservation, and then grading.
     
  7. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast


    I suppose that would put the ball in their court, right? They'd kind of be obligated to grade it if they conserved it... ;)
     
  8. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    it's might be cheaper to buy a graded one than to conserve and submit for grading.
     
  9. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast


    Yeah, my thoughts exactly. I only paid about $20 each for these coins, so by the time I would have them conserved and graded, I'd be into them another $50/ea. I'm thinking these two may just go into AirTites for posterity.
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I wouldn't count on that.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Uhhhh, no, that's not quite how it works. There are many times when a coin they conserve ends up in a problem coin holder.

    As for your coins, I think your best bet is to just sell those and buy some that you like that do not have those issues. And if you want them graded, make sure you buy them already graded.
     
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