Paper quality of older large size note (gold certificate). Are they normally thin? Pictures attached

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by MorganDollarGuy, Jan 18, 2022.

  1. I bought this 1907 Gold Certificate in a coin show. It looks really nice with the sleeve on.

    When I got home, I took this note out of the sleeve. I feel the paper is quite thin and flat. I do not feel much embossing on the front, but I feel some on the back. I do not see any sign of repair.

    Is it normal that paper money at that time are on thinner paper when comparing to small size notes?

    For the flatness that I feel, is it due to a lot of pressing?

    If one day I send this note to grading companies like PMG, will the slab mention the note as pressed or somehow processed? Will this get a NET grade? Or will it simply not have a EPQ?

    Based on the photos, does this look like an XF note?

    Pictures:

    Front -- Normal light
    1907-10-normal-light-front.jpg

    Back -- Normal light
    1907-10-normal-light-back.jpg

    Front -- light shining from the right
    1907-10-front-right-light.jpg

    Front -- light shining from the left
    1907-10-front-left-light.jpg

    Back -- light shining from the right
    1907-10-back-right-light.jpg

    Back -- light shining from the left
    1907-10-back-left-light.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I have a few Star Notes that look like that too. It's because I pressed them in wax paper wet and stuck them between sheets in a book with weight on them for several months. Just my own experience.;)
     
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  4. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    Looks good. Great color and might end up with an AU grade. These notes were printed with the paper slightly dampened so a slight waviness is expected. I do however notice a lack of embossing. Nice note.
     
  5. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    It is cool to see the words Ten dollars in Gold coin.
     
  6. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Could it possibly be a professionally cleaned note? I know that some professional restorers soak notes and then flatten them somehow to make them look improved. Just a thought.
     
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  7. Will grading companies like PMG lower the grade for professional cleaned notes?
     
  8. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Good question. I've only run across a few "reconditioned" notes and none were in a PMG holder, so I'm not sure. I think if it was obvious, they would label it as "worked on" or some-such-thing.
     
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  9. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    If they detect the note has been cleaned they will mention it on the back of the holder. I don’t believe it will factor into the grade except for the note will not receiving the EPQ designation.
     
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  10. Thanks everyone!

    Sent to PMG. Got back today. Graded as XF40. A bit lower than I expected. I also sent in other notes. Some of them graded lower than I expected while a few graded better than I expected.

    us-1907-10-pmg.jpg us-1907-10-pmg-back.jpg
     
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