Original Skin?

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  1. coinzip

    coinzip Well-Known Member

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  3. K2Coins

    K2Coins GO GATORS

    Looks okay to me. I have a 1902 that graded with similar toning
     
  4. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    My gut says no, the shine doesn't seem like normal wear because it is just too even across the surfaces. I would expect that normal wear would be much more confined to the high spots with the amount of detail that is remaining.

    On a side note, I've always loved the old album toning.
     
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  5. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Nice album toner and yes I'd say original. Looks high au to me tho I don't think it's strike as these were know. For great strikes
     
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  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Tough call. The color isn't out of the realm of possibility for "original skin" but like Mainebill I don't think it Mint State and circulated toners always leave me leery. We'd probably have to settle on a clearer definition of "original." Which probably ain't happening. :p
     
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  7. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    My guess is the coin is a technical AU58 that the TPGs would push to MS63 for the color and originality.
     
  8. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Hard to tell from pictures, but I also think it's an AU58 and market acceptable. It bugs me a little that it has so much of that "circulated cameo" look that I don't really expect on a high AU coin, and I'm a little bothered by the fact that there's almost no color on the reverse devices.
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Nice eye appealing coin if you like this sort of look,I myself do. However I say no to Original skin. May have seen some circulation possible a lite cleaning and then retoned.
    Again I like the look of this coin and wouldn't have any issues owning it. It has personally but hard to tell with out in in hand.
     
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  10. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Very hard to tell from the photos whether it's original skin or not. I am also in the AU court on grade.
     
  11. charlottedude

    charlottedude Novice Collector

    Album toning. Looks legit.
     
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  12. thejaxcollector

    thejaxcollector Active Member

    Hard to say. Nothing seems amiss, but coloring is unique. Not of personal interest, but still a nice coin for someone.
     
  13. WingedLiberty

    WingedLiberty Well-Known Member

    Can someone post the correct definition of original skin ... does it simply mean that the coin was never dipped, cleaned or artificially toned? It can still be toned but must be natural ... right? Is that it?
     
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  14. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Yes, just that. Nobody has played with it since the day it was minted - whatever's on the coin is what it earned during a natural life.
     
  15. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    That's how I interpret the phrase.
     
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  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I have to admit this coin is growing on me... I've been trying to do the Vam on this one. And I'm stuck between a 48 and a spiked S vam 9 . Large S tilted left?
     
  17. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    Secondary toning - dipped and retoned
     
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  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Large S tilted left. This time of day I haven't enough bandwidth to look at images, so I can't help with attribution. Are you sure we'll see date doubling (if present) with these images?
     
  19. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I would say probably not, but close enough for the market
     
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  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    But it's OK if it happened long ago. I think the Statute of Limitations on these is 100 years.
     
  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    OK it only took me better part of the evening but after several eye strain I think I nailed it a Vam #4 doubled date medium S makes it a R 3
     
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