In another thread on "original rolls and toning", I mentioned this thread to be , but I didn't want to hijack the thread, so made this one. I have a very elderly collector friend who has been at it for 60+ years and his vision is very poor. I had gone through a 1970-S bag of cents for him previously and we found some varieties. He said he had bags from that era other than the 70-S, and mentioned 1969-S. I said I would do the same for that bag, hoping we could find a couple of 69-S DDO, and go have some fun. Well I went to pick up the coins and I found them rolled in this containers. 100 rolls as tight as could fit. It wasn't until I got home that I found he had given me the 68S rather than the 69-S. Anyway he picked these up in a 5000 coin bag in late 1968 and took them home to put in the safe later. When he got home he found his wife had rolled them for him She was a wonderful collector also, who passed away about 6 weeks ago. The lunch box was his son's who now is in his 40s. Rolled nice and tight, little room for environmental damage. The coins at the top had normal golden toning for age, but no deeper toning The ones at the bottom had darker toning on one side or other, or spots visible to the eye. Here is one of the better coin in this roll. This year had Lincoln's hair " flat and smooth, ear is smaller and blends with back of head, beard is smooth , chin larger and squared. Bust is larger and closer to rim, tie and jacket lines are smooth". I am going to get the 1969-S next weekend and find that 69-S DDO Jim
there is just something about seeing these rolls that were rolled many many years ago..i can't explain it and maybe its just me but i love it. i even get excited when my grandma finds old rolls of 80's cents from my great grandmother. she got a few bags of 1988 p cents right after i was born. rolled a few bags up and we are still finding them to this day(she passed in '94).
WOW Jim! That ROCKS! Nothing wrong with getting a ton of the lowest mintage Memorial cent! Looks like opportunity to pull some gem coins out of there. The one you posted looks like a lock for 66. Be sure to look for examples with full steps regardless of condition as they are fairly rare in the issue . Also....be careful with that lunch box! I know people collect those and it might turn out to be worth more than the rolls. LOLOLOL
I decided to go through the roll I opened, and found this. I know only a few dedicated specialist would appreciate this. This DDO, I can only find in Crawford's detailed Analysis of Lincoln Cents. It isn't in Authoritative Reference LC, CPG, or Coppercoins, and only valued at $10 but I had never seen one. And the marker as he illustrated, the little "dribbles" gouges. Crawford stated recent new listing. Jim
what kind of camera set do you have? sorry if everyone here already knows. Is there a post your set up thread here?
Hi EyeEatWheaties, and welcome to the forum! I gather you collect Lincolns also. I use a Canon A590IS point and shoot camera. It has been replaced by some other number. The last few photos were taken by shooting through an eyepiece on a B&L Stereozoom 7x-30x binocular microscope. It isn't really recommended due to possible shakiness, but it seems to work for me. Jim
That's not a double die!! That's just your hand shaking!! Actually that darn good pictures for doing it the manuel way. You should be a surgeon.
As a graduate student in Radiation Genetics decades ago, I had to use a stereoscope and extremely small dissecting tools to remove salivary glands from Drosophila melanogaster ( Vinegar gnats, fruit flys) larvae for my Thesis professor. That was fun !! Jim
I cannot tell a lie...I am jealous. desertgem..your situation gives me hope that someday I will encounter a person who has been holding onto some OBW from the 60's. I really cannot put my finger on it, but there is just something aesthetically pleasing about Lincoln Cents from the 1960's
Thanks - I am shopping used Canon 40 d.s and going to dedicate it tethered for a permanent set up - I have light box and tent copy stand, natural light CFL's etc..
Jim - just for giggles and to illustrate a point, pick out one of the least toned of those coins. Then post a side by side picture of it with a cent with no toning at all. I want folks to see the color difference.
That is hard to do , as I have always agreed with you that toning starts to some extent , the hours +/- after striking, although the progress varies due to variations in the environment. Here is an example of one of the "lightest toned" compared to a recent minted cent. I will check the bank later to see if any 2010 rolls have made it yet. Here is a (CW) 1968-S, 2003, 2009, 2010. I think the gold vs. pink coloration should be obvious. I realize the 68S is 95% copper surface, and the others are 100% copper surface, but that is more reactive and should show faster toning.
For you ? Nahhhh, I figured if nothing else you could dip one. But what you posted serves the purpose pretty well :thumb:
The 95% copper is also not necessarily the same color to begin with and does not tone the same. It nothing else, just look at a woodie. They are at least similar compositions to begin with, but vastly different colors.
Man I love this story. This gentleman is lucky to have you as friend and vice versa I'm sure. How much does he want for that lunch box? I use to love that show when I was a little dirt dobber. Now if you can find a guy that has those 1909 Lincolns rolled up
