Opinions on this 1900 O Morgan Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Fall Guy, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    Your thoughts on grade and condition. Thanks. They are cell phone pictures in natural light. Best I could do right now. 20140316_121342.jpg 20140316_121518.jpg 20140316_121917.jpg 20140316_121926.jpg 20140316_121342.jpg 20140316_121518.jpg 20140316_121917.jpg 20140316_121926.jpg
     
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  3. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    Also, is this an Open 9 Vam?
     
  4. bkozak33

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  5. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    No grade--very harshly cleaned. MS details. Shame, as it would have been a nice coin. Evidence of being mechanically polished on obverse.
     
  6. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    What on the reverse leads you to think that? And the obverse? Polished as well?
     
  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    The entire surface is abraded. Look at the enlarged pictures--harshly cleaned. I know Morgans well, and that one is cleaned. Reverse has hairlines and scratches also.
     
  8. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Looks like it has been dipped to blast white IMO...
     
  9. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    I know you know them well, hence me asking what you saw specifically. Thanks for the replies.
     
  10. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    I agree, coin looks polished and/or whizzed. Details holder.
     
  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Also, on the close up of the reverse, there are some pretty deep gouges, indicating a mechanical cleaning process.
     
  12. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    Just so I know what to look for in the future, are you talking about the right of the eagle's wing?
     
  13. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    I feeling pretty dejected with one. I didn't spend a lot of money on it so it's not that, it's that I didn't realize how bad my eye is. I studied this in hand and missed most of everything mentioned. I have done a lot better in past with not buying problem coins so i thought i was learning. I could always buy certified but I prefer raw coins. For this to be obviously harshly cleaned and me missing it really turns me off to attempting to buy raw coins in the future.
     
  14. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Definitely altered surfaces . . . the contrast between the marks and surrounding surfaces would be much greater on an unaltered coin.
     
  15. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Agreed. Looks whizzed to me.
     
  16. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    i agree something really dosent look right and i am going to have to say whizzing it is !!
     
  17. I looked as hard as I could to come up with a better judgment; however, with your enlarged photos there is no flow lines on the fields and some of the marks are rounded and smoothed. Unfortunately it has been at the very minimum cleaned harshly.
    Look at the lettering real close, it looks like the corners have been broken or 'rounded' by some mechanical means. From my recent lessons in whizzing, I would agree with Sean above

    Sorry - no grade.... God why do people mess with such beauty!
     
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  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Yupp....both sides of the eagle's wings--right and left, and above "In God We Trust." Sorry, but it is definitely a details coin. Since that is a common date, next time get your common date coin in a slab, until you learn the telltale marks of a cleaned or mechanically altered surface coin--it will cost a little more, but you will have a coin you can really enjoy, with minimal risk.
     
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