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Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by jmon, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. jmon

    jmon Numismatist In Training

    I am thinking about sending this in for grading. Any thoughts or opinions would be appreciated. 1c 1838 REV.jpg 1c 1838 OBV.jpg
     
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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    The color looks unnatural, but I'd prefer better photos before saying anything else.
     
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  4. jmon

    jmon Numismatist In Training

    I'm having a hard time getting a good picture of the color. That said, I don't think the color is really off in hand. The thing that has me thrown off is the spot on the reverse between the A & M which makes me think lacquer and the grunge in Liberty, which make me think the same. 1c 1838 Liberty.jpg 1c 1838 REV Spot.jpg
     
  5. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I'm tempted to agree, possibly an old cleaning to hide some of the carbon spots. There is also wear in the hair plus a couple of hits.
     
  6. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Is there such thing as MS details? I think I've seen AU details before but can't remember ever seeing a MS grade - is it that anything done to the coin automatically makes it no longer a MS coin?
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Definitely worn, definitely cleaned IMHO. That color is typical of cleaned large cents. I have seen tons over the years. Be careful to not "blame" the person who cleaned it. Its likely the coin was black and borderline corroding when it happened. Many times such cleaning is the best way to save what is left of a coin.
     
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  8. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    The surfaces look a little pitted from whatever was on the surface prior to the cleaning.
     
  9. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Yes. It's called Uncirculated Details. Take a coin exhibiting no signs of wear then scratch it and submit it to your favorite reputable TPG and see what comes back.:D
    Don't really do all that just search eBay for an example, you'll find one quickly.
     
  10. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    Agreed.
     
  11. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I agree it's cleaned, but at least it's got good eye appeal still. If you sent it in, it would likely get AU details. I do wonder if it might benefit from a soak in some VerdiCare, however. Depending what the "crud" you're talking about is, that might take it off.
     
  12. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    White Balance is off on the images; that's what is throwing us off on the color. Therefore we can't form anything but guesses as to surface originality, and the images are too small to be positive about technical features. From this, it looks like a perhaps-softly-struck slider.
     
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