One Ugly Empress!!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Apr 5, 2015.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Saw this recently listed on Vcoins & it caught my eye. Salonina portrait arent always the nicest looking but I thought this is one of the ugliest portrait of her I have seen.

    Very manly.

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    Description under the coin: Excellent coin, in EF/VF+ condition, conserving full details in both sides (difficult to find in these issue), including a very interesting portrait of Salonina, desgined in a peculiar style. Good quality silver, much beter than usual in Salonina´s antoniniani.

    Peculiar indeed....

    I will admit it is nice condition wise, but I will stick with mine of the same type:

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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Ugly? Are you kidding me?? She's ready for a beauty pageant compared coins of the Flavian women, where the engraver just slapped a female hairdo on the emperor's profile.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't think she looks ugly, just cross. Actually, the look on her face is somewhat familiar to me, but I just can't place where I've seen it.......

    Salonina 5.jpg
    SALONINA
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: SALONINA AVG, diademed and draped bust right, resting on crescent
    REVERSE: DEAE SEGETIAE, statue of Segetiae or Ceres, nimbate, standing facing in four-columned temple, both hands raised
    Struck at Lugdunum, 258 AD
    3.1g, 22mm
    RIC 5
     
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  5. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Ya Mat, butt Ugly..:yuck:
     
  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I wonder if the engravers ever got punished for "unfairly portraying" these powerful people?
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ... I admit that she isn't portrayed to be a real knock-out, eh?

    Salonina AR Antoninianus
    Date: 257-258 AD
    Diameter: 23.6 mm
    Weight: 3.3 grams
    Obverse: SALONINA AVG - Diademed and draped bust of Salonina
    Reverse: FELICITAS PVBLICA - Felicitas seated, holding caduceus and cornucopiae
    References: RIC 6

    Salonina a.jpg salonina b.jpg
     
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  8. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Maybe the bronze and poor condition of this coin could hide the ugliness of that Empress a little bit. She might have a sweet character, though. Believe me that's more valuable and precious by every means. Salonina O.jpg Salonina.jpg
     
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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Real life, sure, but shes been dead for over almost 2000 years, so its irrelevant now. I wanna look at pretty faces, not woofs ;)

    How many people find the susan b anthony dollar attractive? :troll:
     
  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's Gallienus in drag.
     
  11. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Ha, female Hadrians are ugly, but Cleopatra is a female Ptolemy...yikes!!!
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Are we safe in assuming that 2015 definitions of beauty held true in the time these coins were made? Do we know that small, delicate features were more valued then than a strong chiseled look? In my lifetime, female beauties have become less well padded and more athletic. Along the way we passed through a period where emaciated was in. What textual references do we have on which empresses were considered great beauties and which were desirable for other features (daughter of a powerful family, e.g.)?
     
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  13. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    http://www.boredpanda.com/women-ideal-body-type-history-video/
     
  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    you're 100% correct, my mentor friend ...

    => I married my sweetie because she had a strong-back and could carry 4 bails of oats (*hot*)
     
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  15. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    A shame I tell you.
     
  16. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Actually JA hit my thought exactly when I saw it, "Gallienus in drag."

    And I actually prefer "padded". I like meat on my females. Too many bones nowadays :/
     
  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Actually, I think that's what happened here too, it's just that Gallienus is a bit prettier than Titus.
     
  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's an interesting coin to be sure, but not $100 worth of interesting. More like $50.
     
  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    ugly empress or no....the coin is pretty! :woot:

    what's that the kids do these days? swipe right if hot? swipe left if not? or the other way around.

    i have no clue really. :oldman:
     
  20. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Yes a nice coin, if not a pretty portrait, and not so often do we see such quality on Salonina coins

    It's taken ages to me to find a decent sestertius for that lady


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    Salonina, Sestertius Rome mint, AD 256-260
    CORNELIA SALONINA AVG, Diademed and draped bust of Salonina right
    IVNO REGINA, Juno standing left, with patera and sceptre, SC in field
    20.05 gr
    Ref : RIC # 46, RCV #10679, Cohen #62

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  21. Severatus

    Severatus Active Member

    She looks like the kinda gal that would say " If you get outta line again young sir im putting you over my knee and spanking your bottom "......OK im looking for more things to do wrong then ;)

    She's no Lucilla but, when in the Syrian Desert...

    Her hair looks like a flapper chick from the early 1900's - circa Gatsby or maybe Edith Edith_Crawley_retrato.jpg
     
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