Old ANA grading company slabs

Hi everybody, Here are some pics of a 1949 Franklin half I got at the coin show Sunday. It is in an old ANA slab. I think it would easily upgrade to a MS-62 or 63. It has nice blue toning on the front and back. It was a great buy for $10. Anyone else want to post an old ANA slab?

Charlie

 

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Nice half...from these photos I don't see any reason why its not a MS...

I don't have any OLD ANACS holders but I think these are neat!

Speedy

 

You don't see a lot of those. ANACS only used them for about four or five months between the time they started using slabs in Nov of 1989 and when Amos Press bought them and took over in the spring of 1990. And of course in the fifteen years since them many of them have been cracked out for upgrading or crossovers.

 

I can see why they would be cracked out. This one might even go MS-64.

Charlie

 

Simple question Charlie, if it were really a AU back in late 89 or early 90, then how could it be a MS now? I don't believe just laying around in a slab could remove the damage that caused it to be graded AU suddenly be gone.

Yah I know, gradeflation. Baloney! Just another way of releaving a sucker from his money.

 

Haven't you heard about the 1974 aluminum cent. ICG graded it AU-58 and PCGS graded it MS-62. There is a very fine line between AU-58 and MS-60-62.

JMHO, Charlie

 

But OldDan...couldn't it have been undergraded back then??
Also if Charlie is going to sell the coin what would be better....to get AU price on a coin the buyer is going to have up'ed to MS and sell again or for Charlie to have it regraded and get the $$ that the buyer is willing to pay??

I know what you mean and I agree...grading shouldn't change...but since it is changing I think it is a good idea to keep up with it and just hope that one day more collectors will agree with us.

Speedy

 

Exactly. How can you look at very slight wear and determine where that wear came from.

 

You are absolutely right, it may have been undergraded then, but then it's also possible that it could be "overgraded" now. See my point?

No Speedy I don't agree that this is a good thing and someday everyone will accept it as such. I happen to believe what both GDJMSP and Conder said.

Here is a question that should be answered if they think they can do it, before giving out higher grades.

 

I see it...a good point at that....

I'm sorry I said it wrong...what I ment was that one day maybe the collectors will go back to the way I learned and the way that we grade...now days they up the grade...I don't think thats right...I see it as wrong...but its has happened....

Speedy

 

Is the blue toning on this caused by the slab? I have seen several old ANA slabs with coins that had similar blue toning.

Thanks, Charlie

 

I cracked this one and sent it in to ANACS. It came back MS-63 FBL. :whistle:

Charlie

 

Congratulations [or coingratulations], Charlie!

However, this convinces me that I'll never get the hang of grading. I would have never even recognized this as being in the AU-MS63 range in the first place due to the toning. I don't know how you guys can do that from a photo or scan.

 

Way to go!!!
I bet your glad you sent it in now...I hear that they just up'ed their fee....

Speedy

 

Yep, I'm glad I sent it in. They sent me the new submission forms and prices.

2-days- $39 (max value $10,000/coin)
5-Days- $25 (max value $5,000/coin)
10-Days- $15 (max value $2,000/coin)
Economy(21 days)- $12 (max value $500/coin)
Modern(16 days)- $11 (1964-present)

Charlie

 

Do they still lower the fee if you send in more than 10 or what ever???

Speedy

 

No, and you can't mix tiers on the same form. Also, the form and rates are "valid through 6-30-2006."

Charlie