Odd Ephesus Bee Issue

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Brian Bucklan, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    Came across this 16mm Ephesus issue a few days ago and for some reason had to buy it. The obverse with the bee is quite nice but the reverse is completely blank. There are numerous visible marks on the reverse showing that someone intentionally ground it flat, but left the obverse perfectly intact. The even patina on both sides certainly indicates it was done in antiquity. Just curious if anyone knows of a possible reason why this would have been done.
    Ephesus Bee Blank.jpg
     
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  3. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    No, but at least the business side of the coin was left alone. The bee is the whole reason I like and collect Ephesian coins.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very nice bee at least.
     
  5. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Does it show any signs of being set in jewelry of some sort?
     
  6. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    Interesting thought but the nice, even patina suggests that this was probably done a very long time ago. Now I wonder how long folks have been setting coins into jewelry. And that does give me an idea of what to do with this piece.

    BTW, the guy I got it from surmised it may have been used as a weight. Good a guess as any.
     
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  7. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    How much does it weigh?

    Does its weight match a known or multiple/fraction of a known weight standard?
     
  8. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    great detail on that bee. envy is the word. ;)
     
  9. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I was thinking it was mounted in ancient times. A weight sounds like a reasonable guess, too, except weren't they usually made of lead? Why would you make a silver coin into a weight?
     
  10. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Could it be that two flans were stuck together when this was struck and the wear happened after? I remember dougsmit had a coin like that a while back. Just a thought though it does look like that was intentionally roughed up on the reverse.

    Very nice bee detail btw!
     
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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    The dude either hated deer, eagles, or chicks!!

    Ionia esphesos AE Bee & Stag.jpg ionia ephesos.jpg Ionia Ephesos Tetartemorion.jpg Ionia ephesos zumbly.jpg

    :rolleyes:

    Oh, and that's a very sweet bee obverse you have there (congrats on that cool OP-example)
     
  12. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    S-Yoda => try saving-up the cash that you're spending on those sweet Canadian rainbow-toned quarters and aim it towards one of those cool Bee-coins ...

    It ain't rocket science, my coin-friend

    stoned bee.jpg


    :rolleyes:
     
  14. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    I know, but I am very focused on completing these 2 toned coin sets. I cannot buy any coins right now. I spent way to much on christmas gifts for my parents. worth every penny though.:) way down the road I will buy an amazing ancient bee silver coin.:greedy::cool:
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

  16. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Thread revival for a tiny coin I picked up yesterday. Not a great example but the price was right. The stag is a little hard to see, looking back with foreleg raised.

    AE12, 1.4g

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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    very cool ... congrats

    :rolleyes:
     
  18. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  19. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Yeah, coingrats!
     
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