Oak Tree Shilling PCGS VF25

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  1. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I picked this guy up at a local show this weekend. I THINK this coin may be Noe 13.6 spiny tree which is listed as very rare with 5-6 pieces known. Anyone have experience or reference materials that could confirm this?

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  3. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Wow! What a coin! ;)
     
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  4. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    *Must* you tease us like this?

    Most of us will never see one of these, much less hold it... much less BUY it ;-)

    <bangs head on desk... whimpers quietly...>
     
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  5. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Get her over to CAC.
     
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  6. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    She's going to be on the way today.
     
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  7. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    So, I was able to confirm that my coin is in fact Noe 13.6... by using... CoinTalk. Looking through the similar threads at the bottom of this one... I found this post. You will see that the coin indicated as 13.6 is in fact the exact same coin in question and a coinfacts plate coin.

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  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Don't ya love it when a plan comes together :)
     
    GDJMSP, Sep 16, 2014
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  9. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

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  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    wow, it gets better & better
     
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  11. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Is the attribution something you can get on the slab? Might want to re-holder it before sending to CAC, not sure if that will help the resale value, but my gut feeling is that it would.

    I dont know much about this period of coinage so I am not sure how accurate this is, but I was reading the most recent ANA Numismatist and I guess one of the largest / best hoards of these types of coins was found in Maine, including the coins I like even better, the Pine Tree shilling. The Castine hoard. I love it when I can connect everything to Maine!
     
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  12. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    PCGS does not variety attribute these apparently.
     
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  13. jfreakofkorn

    jfreakofkorn Well-Known Member


    http://www.wilsonmuseum.org/bulletins/summer2003.html
     
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  14. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    That being the case...would it be worthwhile getting it slabbed by another TPG (NGC?) who will attribute it? Of course, your reputation is such that you might not need that.
     
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  15. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I guess neither of the top 2 do the vareities on these...
     
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  16. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    Looks like you will be taking it to segs
     
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  17. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I'd rather drill a hole in it and wear it as a pendant... but that's just my opinion.


    I finally did get it figured out. It is definitely a 13.6. The coin is one of the 3 Hain family pieces that somehow lost it's attribution and then was misattributed by Heritage in it's last sale. It has previously sold at auction 2 times with the correct attribution, lastly in 2003.
     
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  18. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator


    So being a coin dealer is like 1/8 part Sherlock Holmes.
     
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  19. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Sometimes it can be just that. Some people ditch these pedigrees when the coin is sold in close proximity to try to hide it's last sale price. With a little work you can get them identified... but sometimes it's not easy.
     
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  20. josh's coins

    josh's coins Well-Known Member

    I'll never understand your obsession with CAC it is just a sticker that does the work for you by telling you the coin is good for its grade.
     
    josh's coins, Sep 16, 2014
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  21. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Yup. It's my safety net. But that conversation is for another thread. ;)
     
    geekpryde, Sep 16, 2014
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