Not sure if I should return this..

So far this year I've had no issue buying coins. However today I got one that I did not agree with. I am wanting your opinion if I should make a return.

Here is how the coin looked from the seller.



Now here are my pics.





Now on the front it's fine. The little scratch you see near the next is a die gouge (maybe). It's not pmd as it's sticking out.

However on the reverse, there is no cartwheel effect, and there are many little scratches on it, so it appears the reverse has had a cleaning. The reverse is also brighter than the obverse. The none-toned area just flashes light back at you, instead of circulating around like a non-cleaned coin would.

Now I paid with shipping, $40.59 for this coin. The Krause value is $150 in MS-60, and $80 in XF-40.

So I'm leaning on keeping it, but on the fence, still.

So tell me if I should return it, and why or why not.

 

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Forgot to add, the seller said it was PL (maundy). Is it?

If it is indeed Munday, I will keep it, we're talking a mintage of 4K vs over 4 million for the circulating issues.

 

Does the seller have a return policy and if so what is it? Do you like the coin? If the seller has a return policy and you don't like the coin return it, if you like the coin then keep it. It's really a personal decision. Cool cud on the reverse BTW.

 

Returns:​

14 days money back, buyer pays return shipping

If I can have someone who knows the diff between proof like and regular strike tell me if it's PL. I will keep it. ​

 

PL to me would be if the coin were showing some kind of mirrored effect. Anything like that happening Tim?

 

A little bit of that on the front, but it's hard to tell with toning.

 

My only objections to the coin versus the sellers pics would be the reverse scratches in the fields. If those bother you, I would say there is enough there to justify a return.

This is why in the "bad old days" you found sellers you trusted to describe coins accurately. Much better system IMHO than from pics. Pictures are usually not the end all be all due to lighting, etc.

 

If by PL you mean proof like then I would say highly doubtful. I don't know the series, but generally proof coins are struck with fresh dies and proof like coins are generally those struck with the dies shortly after the proof run was done.

Your coin on the other hand was struck from dies nearing the end of their life as evidence by the die chips on the obverse and the cuds on the reverse.

 

Here are two sets of Maundy 1873 I found on heritage. Based on these coins, the polished fields and lack of cuds, I would say yours is not a Maundy but a circulation strike.

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=363&lotNo=22598
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=363&lotNo=22599

 

I contacted the seller and asked if I could return it, waiting for his reply.

 

Return it. The sellers photo was retouched. Since he is a crook, make sure you get your money back first before returning it. Also give him a bad rating.

 

This looks like a good deal! Keep it!

 

It is not a Maundy coin, but a Monday morning coin. The dies were giving out on Saturday before the end of shift and the mint worker was twa lazy to change them out. He came back in after a bender on Sunday and forgot all about the lousy state of the die and just droned on striking coins until the die completely shattered.

One item of concern in Detecto's image is that it appears as though the coin was dipped in the past and has partially retoned.

I vote get your hard earned dosh back and return the threenub.

 

I'm going to be nice to the seller and offer emailing him the photos I took of the coin. Maybe when he relists it, he can get more out of it from better photos.

 

Return it.
Never trust the seller's photos...

 

Keep it simple, Tim...don't try to be a hero thinking that sending the seller your photos is going to help him "get more out of it". Just contact him to return the item, and leave it at that...

 

I agree, return the coin, get the dosh back, and call it good. Sending seller photos is stepping out and maybe inviting problems.

 

I see no reason to suspect retouched photos - just poor photo work. My problem on things like this is that returning the coin will get you your $40.59 but you will be out the cost of returning (are you planning on postal insurance?). I'd keep it and mark up the difference between $40 and what the coin is worth 'as is' as the cost of education in what happens when we buy based on poor photos. I doubt, in hand, the coin looks as bad as your photo. Correct? Unless the seller claimed the coin was 'never cleaned', do you feel you are entitled to assume a Raw coin sold at 1/4 catalog is slab ready?

 

I agree and have done the same as well. Maybe it's the catholic upbringing, but the pain of making and living with the mistake made me more careful in the future.

 

I see the reverse scratches in the seller's pics. The coin pictured by the seller is the coin pictured by the buyer. If you have buyer's remorse, return it. If you're claiming it's a different coin, you're wrong.