Not a snack but cheap lunch.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ancient Aussie, Feb 12, 2017.

  1. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    I have just taken a couple of pics of a coin I bought not long ago for only $75 sold to me as worn old red patina fine wear, but I was very impressed with the detail especially on the reverse. The coin is one of Claudius's more scarce AE Dupondius Ceres, although it meets the seller's description if you look closely the detail is quite good for a whether beaten coin. Ceres, RIC 110. 10.14gm 20170205_133422 (2).jpg 20170205_133445.jpg Post your cheap lunch (sub $100) that you are impressed with.
     
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  3. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    Fantastic coin! Man I love these early Imperial bronze coins. Sticking with Claudius, here's one of my favourites in the name of Germanicus for $70.
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  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Here is a recent cool AR Hemidrachm that I scored for less than $70 (delivered)

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    ... cha-ching!!
     
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  5. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    That is fantastic for $70, even better than mine, I think they look better than the pristine perfect no wear coins.
     
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  6. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    I love that coin, not only has it got great detail, I am relieved as I had visions of leaving myself wide open for a Faustina Altar for $80 post from you.
     
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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Oh my. I hate to be that person, but to me it looks fake :(. The style is off compared to authentic examples in archives (among other things, I don't see any authentic examples with such large circles decorating the throne). The surfaces look cast. The device-field junctions are indistinct ("melted").

    I hope I'm wrong. There isn't a match in forgery databases but not every fake coin is found in those (Forvm, ForgeryNetwork)
     
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  8. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    No doubt I like coins with wear on em. You just know they been around a bit more. Since we're on the topic of lunch I hope the dollar menu will suffice..
    Constantine II Heraclea.png This one cost $2.49. I'll get better pics once I figure out this whole white balance.
     
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  9. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I think it's ok :eek: Maybe a Gallic mint or an imitation.

    Not mine:

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    edit: I'm far from expert so don't quote me on that.
     
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  10. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i have an ae as of the old bean. i paid around $60-70 for it back in 05-06(BV-AV) claudius AE AS b4 and after verdi care app 001.JPG claudius AE AS b4 and after verdi care app 002.JPG claudius AE AS b4 and after verdi care app 004.JPG claudius AE AS b4 and after verdi care app 005.JPG here's b4 verdi-care app and after. that's some good stuff. thanx to you all for recommending it!
     
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  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    There are some odd looking examples in archives which are listed as contemporary imitations. Maybe that is the case here. The first coin Randy showed is from a recent CNG sale and is attributed to a mint in Gaul. It does have the circles in the lower crossbrace of the throne-- I missed that one my first pass through archives. I'm still suspicious though :(
     
  12. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    I agree that is not common to see the circles on the chair, but that's what I like about the coin as most coins have to much wear in that area, I took this pic from ANA website from there archives and it has good detail of the chair like mine. 20170212_202138 (2).jpg
     
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  13. Ajax

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  14. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    we can't go on together.. with suspicious minds...>< sorry.. elvis has left the building and got in my head...
     
  15. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    it brought out a little more detail... to me. but yah, it was alright w/o it.
     
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  16. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i had a germanicus and now i can't find it.. i think...that's a nice one.
     
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  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Yes, those circles are similar to yours. Again, I hope my suspicions are unfounded.
     
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  18. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    Can you explain what you mean by this? Slowly..:D
     
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  19. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I'm no expert and I often find it hard to tell just from photos if a coin has surfaces that suggest it is a cast forgery, but in this case I'm leaning towards it being okay. How do the edges look? Stylewise, if you allow for the diversity found in issues of Rome as well as the Balkan, Gallic (and Spanish?) mints, I would think this one falls within acceptable limits.

    Mine has prominent circle ornaments on the throne as well. It did NOT cost me $75 :sour:.

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  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Sure :)

    Here's an extreme example for purposes of clarity, from a CalgaryCoins article about detecting fake ancient coins:

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    And another example from that article:
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    In the second picture, see how the portrait joins the fields? It's sloped and not very crisp. I see others use the word "melted" to describe this because it looks like the portrait (or other device) is melting/dissolving into the flan. [Edited to add that a more common term for this appearance is "soft"] That can't be a function of wear since those junctions are low points on the coin.

    Here's an authentic coin from CNG's archives (randomly picked a Galba dupondius with moderate wear, for easy comparison to the above portrait). Notice the sharper junctions of the portrait to the flan.

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  21. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    One thing I do notice about these is all the different portraits, it's almost as if he couldn't decide on what looks good, very nice coin zumbly with great detail.
     
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